NYS Budget- SUNY Allocations 2008-2009

[GODANESGO]

The Presidential Search Committee met again both Saturday and today. That makes 4 times this month. Hopefully that means some (good) news soon!

[UAalum72]

Committee met again yesterday - three meetings in eight days!

[Dane96]

Give credit when it is due (just like I rip things when they need ripping).

 

This seems like they are moving forward...and that is a positive step! This, plus the Nano news...and the highway news...I mean maybe FINALLY Albany realizes what this University is doing for them.

[MRSGDG]

Passed along to me through Rockefeller:

 

 

 

The New York State Division of Budget (DOB) has decided to order the State University of New York to freeze nearly $110 million it collects from students and public hospital patients from TUITION, dormitory fees, private insurance payments, and more! The $109.4 million spending reduction comes on top of a $38.8 million cut in operating aid in the 2008-09 state budget. Without these funds, SUNY will not be able to deliver the educational and health care services that students, parents and hospital patients have already paid for, courses will be cancelled, class sizes will swell, and the quality of our academic programs and patient care will suffer. Freezing SUNY's revenues will produce a shortage of funds to pay for residence hall maintenance, security, and campus safety. SUNY's public hospitals in Brooklyn, Stony Brook and Syracuse won't have the funds available to maintain some vital health care services. In essense, this plan will dismantle SUNY.

 

United University Professions, the union that represents more than 32,000 faculty and staff at SUNY, urges you to take action by telling the Governor to intervene and allow SUNY to spend the revenues it collects from TUITION, dormitory fees and other payments to support services for its students and hospital patients.

 

 

 

Fax the Governor here if you are a student: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1373/t/2...mpaign_KEY=2164

Fax the Governor here if you are a SUNY employee: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1373/t/2...mpaign_KEY=2161

 

 

Invite ALL your friends who attend any SUNY campus to join this group and fax the Governor! Email the link to your parents and friends at other schools! Don't let the DOB hold your tuition dollars hostage!

 

 

 

We also have a facebook group with over one thousand members making it known that this cut is unacceptable. To join this group, click here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17050052789

[MRSGDG]

SUNY grapples with budget

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp...sdate=5/16/2008

[statefan]

An interesting Newsday editorial complaining that SUNY is treated the same as a state agency:

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/editor...0,1602895.story

[MRSGDG]

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pb...80324/1001/NEWS

Thought many here would find this amusing ....

 

 

 

Most schools will receive between 2 percent and 4 percent less than last year. The biggest cut is at Stony Brook in Suffolk County, at 5.83 percent less than 2007-08. Empire State College, which has multiple locations across New York, is the only one whose support has increased. It is $15.9 million this year, a hike of less than 1 percent.

[Classof72/74]

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pb...80324/1001/NEWS

Thought many here would find this amusing ....

 

 

 

Most schools will receive between 2 percent and 4 percent less than last year. The biggest cut is at Stony Brook in Suffolk County, at 5.83 percent less than 2007-08. Empire State College, which has multiple locations across New York, is the only one whose support has increased. It is $15.9 million this year, a hike of less than 1 percent.

 

 

I understand some SUNY campuses are already contemplating another round of cuts in FY09 :-(

[scrabbleship]

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pb...80324/1001/NEWS

Thought many here would find this amusing ....

 

 

 

Most schools will receive between 2 percent and 4 percent less than last year. The biggest cut is at Stony Brook in Suffolk County, at 5.83 percent less than 2007-08. Empire State College, which has multiple locations across New York, is the only one whose support has increased. It is $15.9 million this year, a hike of less than 1 percent.

 

 

I understand some SUNY campuses are already contemplating another round of cuts in FY09 :-(

 

Is it time to just give up on SUNY and start anew with existing campuses, or is this a short-term thing arising from the sudden change in the executive branch and the totally opposite approach of Patterson vs. Spitzer?

 

If Spitzer didn't buy Ashley Dupree's services, would SUNY be better off? Or would his "spend even though we're in debt" plan would have backfired regardless in the long run?

[danefan]

Can anyone still tell me that we have a chance at getting the funding for the stadium. I am more pessimistic now than ever.

[UA_MA_2000]

State-wide cuts to SUNY, yet for some odd reason funding FOR potentially TWO new SUNY law schools (Bingo and Stonybrook)? Stupid.

[Classof72/74]

State-wide cuts to SUNY, yet for some odd reason funding FOR potentially TWO new SUNY law schools (Bingo and Stonybrook)? Stupid.

 

 

And, in case you missed it in another message, no cuts in Bundy Aid to private colleges in NYS

[ATL_DANE]

State-wide cuts to SUNY, yet for some odd reason funding FOR potentially TWO new SUNY law schools (Bingo and Stonybrook)? Stupid.

 

 

And, in case you missed it in another message, no cuts in Bundy Aid to private colleges in NYS

 

 

That is a crime.

[scrabbleship]

State-wide cuts to SUNY, yet for some odd reason funding FOR potentially TWO new SUNY law schools (Bingo and Stonybrook)? Stupid.

 

 

And, in case you missed it in another message, no cuts in Bundy Aid to private colleges in NYS

 

If Patterson is so serious about belt-tightening, why not target this first? Or does Patterson think New York is "too good" for public universities?

 

Pataki should have run for a fourth term...then we'd have a President and a stadium being built. But no, Spitzer had to go ruin EVERYTHING!!!!

[ATL_DANE]

It's taken years for me to understand just some of the challenges that New York's public universities face. Most Americans have no clue of how New York cripples its own state university. These are just some of the problems a UT, U of M, UGA or Cal grad wouldn't know.

 

--SUNY has too many campuses. It can't afford 64 campuses offering redundant programs.

--SUNY is not tiered like other states. The average New Yorker couldn't tell you the difference between one school and another... other than it's location.

--Private schools steal money from the state university system through the Bundy Act

--SUNY is a "state agency" like the DMV so it's getting hit with state budget reductions

--SUNY oversight is overly complex and funding is based on your local politician's interest and power (Bruno has done a lousy job at building eastern New York's only SUNY Center)

--SUNY has no control over their financing. They can't even set their own tuition. UC Berkley costs more than other Cal schools for a reason.

--SUNY resisted major college athletics for too long. College athletics is the key to alumni support and building excitement. Many state flagships make millions of dollars on their athletics (TX,GA,FL,MI etc)

 

New York will be the long term loser if SUNY is made a prioroty. The bachelor's degree is yesterday's high school degree. New York cannot rely on their expensive private schools to educate their population. Most people can't afford those schools and even if they could they are too focused on the bachelors degree.

 

Spitzer was right about everything EXCEPT UAlbany's position.

 

The good news is there are more SUNY grads today than ever before. 1/2 of all New York college kids attend SUNY. That number will keep rising. Bruno, Patterson, Silver are pre-SUNY and too old to get it. We will have a SUNY Governor sooner or later.