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Did we screw up by not going to The Big South?


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My prediction (and I am serious)

 

 

Rutgers 84

SBU 10

 

I know the payday is unreal but this is a stupid game to play. I understand that the exposure for recruits is great but SBU is not Appy State, in fact they are closer to Alfred then Appy and I am serious. APPY gets BIG BOY 1A (sorry I hate the initials) transfers by the truckloads and they are good players obviously. If UMASS played Rutgers it would be 40 something to 14 Rutgers. Rutgers is becoming a national power and one of the top teams to beat in the East This game could be SBU's undoing. They would of been better off playing Syracuse, Temple or Buffalo. THEY WONT BE READY FOER THIS LEVEL FOR ANOTHER 10 years, if they havent fired the AD and football staff by then. I wouldn't want Albany to play this game either once they see the 57 rides and are a counter. Army is fine for both programs.

 

Army will be more of an even playing field. Trust me Ive been to watch SBU practice and play and they didn't strike fear into me. They were smaller then Albany and a little slower. They did have an explosive passing attack and add that to our weak pass defense and the game was closer then it should of been. We beat them sensless on the ground last season all except at the end when we couldn,t punch it in. There big ground attack came on two seperate runs. How much better will they be this year? Maybe a little. Look no further then the New hampshire game for them last year they got mauled.

 

I envision/expect Albany going further in FCS then SBU but facilities are a must or all of this will be a moot point. Who knows this could turn into a great rivalry. Remember this series is lopsided in our favor.

 

As far as Fordie is concerned I could actually see him coaching until he is 80. The guy is in" Joe Paterno like" shape. he seems to adjust well to the younger athlete at least from what I observe from a distance and he obviously can recruit. His schemes do not appear outdated and kids seem to still like playing for him. That may change tomorrow but for now we appear to have a winning coach that obviosly knows what he is doing and still likes doing the job. It is now in Lee MaCs hands and the University. If the State fails to deliver they must go forward with a plan B NOW!!!!!! The momentum of this program is building and they need to capitalize on it NOW!

 

 

I agree with you except for this: See last year's UMASS - Boston College (24-14 BC). Umass would have likely beaten Rutgers last year or at least came very close.

 

SBU will get killed by Rutgers. Its a given. But the point is exposure. It was a given that we would get killed by Duke last year in BBall. It was great for the program though, regardless of the beat down.

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True enough and I respect that. But lets remember SBU is nowhere near UMASS! Danefan are you headed to the golf outing?

 

Yes, hopefully. I am going to register but my job is so unpredictable that I never know.

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Just got in...will read in the morning...or maybe later...but I need to decompress from that sweatbox of New York City. Danefan...a misting tent would not have sufficed for BBQ Fest. It was LE MIS-RAY-BAL!

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I had a conversation a few weeks ago with the father of kid from NJ whose college choice came down to the following three: Albany, Stony Brook and Appalachian State. This was last year (kid was a freshman this year).

 

He made some very interesting points to me.

1. He absolutely loved Coach Ford (like most parents). He wanted his son to go to Albany because he didn't think he'd play right away at App State.

 

2. He absolutely despised Priore. Its the first I've heard of this. He said Priore appeared to be "rushing the program along". His words. He said that he felt the kids going to SBU were nothing more than #'s to the program. Now I haven't heard anything like that about Priore, but he also hasn't been at the DI level very long to hear things like that. He is a Ford protege so I hope he does not conduct himself in that manner.

 

3. The kid ended up going to App State on a full ride. He started 6 games as a true frosh at App State.

 

Slightly off-topic, but I heard a similar story about one of our lacrosse recruits.

 

1.) Loved Marr.

2.) Despised the Siena coach (who apparently is some sort of contradictory control freak.)

3.) Ended up at UA on a full ride.

 

With some of the stories being quietly circulated about the Siena lacrosse coach I do not think we have to fear them improving too much in the coming years.

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I will admit up front that I am not as knowledgeable about the football program as most on this board.

 

But one thing I am pretty sure is the program is going NO WHERE without a STADIUM. Notice I said stadium, not new stadium, because as I said a number of times before, what we have now can in no way be called a stadium. I am amazed we have been as successful and have progressed as far as we have with that "thing". A lot of praise has been expressed on this board for for Ford--maybe sainthood would be more appropriate considering what he has accomplished with so little.

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I had a conversation a few weeks ago with the father of kid from NJ whose college choice came down to the following three: Albany, Stony Brook and Appalachian State. This was last year (kid was a freshman this year).

 

He made some very interesting points to me.

1. He absolutely loved Coach Ford (like most parents). He wanted his son to go to Albany because he didn't think he'd play right away at App State.

 

2. He absolutely despised Priore. Its the first I've heard of this. He said Priore appeared to be "rushing the program along". His words. He said that he felt the kids going to SBU were nothing more than #'s to the program. Now I haven't heard anything like that about Priore, but he also hasn't been at the DI level very long to hear things like that. He is a Ford protege so I hope he does not conduct himself in that manner.

 

3. The kid ended up going to App State on a full ride. He started 6 games as a true frosh at App State.

 

Slightly off-topic, but I heard a similar story about one of our lacrosse recruits.

 

1.) Loved Marr.

2.) Despised the Siena coach (who apparently is some sort of contradictory control freak.)

3.) Ended up at UA on a full ride.

 

With some of the stories being quietly circulated about the Siena lacrosse coach I do not think we have to fear them improving too much in the coming years.

 

Reading the love fest printed by the TimesUseless before the two teams met, you'd think they are bound to challenge Syracuse for top team in NYS.

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Is there any way the university could borrow the money for the stadium and repay it later? The local legislators said they believed we would get the funding next year (now this year). Start building now and worse case we finance the interest for a year at State Dormitory low interest rates. Once we take the loans it will put pressure on for them to come through with the cash.

 

They freaking owe us! They owe it to themselves and all of eastern New York. Buffalo and Stony Brook have new stadiums. Stony Brook is getting a law school and Buffalo is getting a new campus. We're building law schools in the middle of nowhere (Binghamton and Stony Brook) instead of the state capitol? Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense!

 

I repeat, they freaking owe us. Who's looking out for New York's Capitol university?

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Who's looking out for New York's Capitol university?

 

 

Apparently no one is even looking out for SUNY as a whole

 

 

http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp...sdate=6/13/2008

 

 

 

 

:(

 

Maybe it's time for SUNY to give up and have a new organization come up to run the public universities?

 

I'll never forget Ezra Cornell or Ashley Dupree...they hurt SUNY even though they never knew it!

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