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The weekend road trip - women at Wagner, men at Colgate and Canisius


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Grand Canyone 10-24 from 3

Holy Cross 11-29 from 3

Yale 11-29 from 3

Canisius 12-28 from 3

 

In the wins

Penn St. was 9-25 from 3 > good

Brown was 5-20

Siena was 7-22

 

 

What was Canisus picked in the MAAC this year?

 

9th. Not good. We played down to their level and then some.

 

Canisius isn't going to finish 9th. Preseason picks are worthless.

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I think its interesting for us fans who enjoy watching a our UA teams know how to play basketball and get to the hoop. It seems so many teams now just rely on chucking up threes at this level and no one is taught how to get to the hoop.

 

Now granted often times we are on the bad end of the games when people hit threes after threes.. but I know I at least enjoy seeing actual plays, and drives to the hoop..from a fun fan experience.

 

Like watching Colgate in person was sooo boring. It was a joke how they never went for a 2. Just passed around, kicked out, etc.

As a fan I don't care how it gets into the hoop. What's boring is losing the same way every game. It gets very old when you keep hearing every loss is because the other team got hot from three.

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I think its interesting for us fans who enjoy watching a our UA teams know how to play basketball and get to the hoop. It seems so many teams now just rely on chucking up threes at this level and no one is taught how to get to the hoop.

 

Now granted often times we are on the bad end of the games when people hit threes after threes.. but I know I at least enjoy seeing actual plays, and drives to the hoop..from a fun fan experience.

 

Like watching Colgate in person was sooo boring. It was a joke how they never went for a 2. Just passed around, kicked out, etc.

As a fan I don't care how it gets into the hoop. What's boring is losing the same way every game. It gets very old when you keep hearing every loss is because the other team got hot from three.

 

Exactly, it's idiotic to suggest you enjoy teams who run an offense and lose vs teams that can hit 13 threes and drill you by 17. Hit 12 threes and I'm OK if they don't run offensive sets on every possession. People are destroying UA with a volume 3's game but hey, at least we run plays. And shoot 41% from the field like in this game against one of the worst defenses in the country. This team is meddling right now...some good wins but also some really head-scratching losses. I think that's par for the course for a team starting 2 sophomores, one of which had almost zero experience going into the season, is sulking a bit and immature.

 

Albany is 3rd or 4th best this year. Needs to get Andrews and Lands back, need to develop some semblance of defensive identity. Right now this is a team looking at around 16 or 17 wins on the year. For the record I consider that success in a rebuilding year.

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I think its interesting for us fans who enjoy watching a our UA teams know how to play basketball and get to the hoop. It seems so many teams now just rely on chucking up threes at this level and no one is taught how to get to the hoop.

 

Now granted often times we are on the bad end of the games when people hit threes after threes.. but I know I at least enjoy seeing actual plays, and drives to the hoop..from a fun fan experience.

 

Like watching Colgate in person was sooo boring. It was a joke how they never went for a 2. Just passed around, kicked out, etc.

As a fan I don't care how it gets into the hoop. What's boring is losing the same way every game. It gets very old when you keep hearing every loss is because the other team got hot from three.

 

Exactly, it's idiotic to suggest you enjoy teams who run an offense and lose vs teams that can hit 13 threes and drill you by 17. Hit 12 threes and I'm OK if they don't run offensive sets on every possession. People are destroying UA with a volume 3's game but hey, at least we run plays. And shoot 41% from the field like in this game against one of the worst defenses in the country.

 

Canisius wasn't chucking threes. They actually ran some good stuff I thought. Their big guys who can shoot from the outside were especially annoying.

 

That's how it's going to go sometimes. When we shoot 18% from three and they shoot over 40% we're not going to win very often. We don't notice when it's the other way around and we win games.

 

I thought they did a nice job against us on defense and we didn't have an answer. They made Dallas put the ball on the floor and that's not his strength. We could really use another guard to emerge. I keep think Grayson isn't going to be the guy some games and then there are games like this.

 

I'm not worried about conference play just yet. This team is going to grow as the season goes on and especially when we get some weapons back that are out now.

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Interestingly..kenpom likes us better right now (174) than when the season started (183)..even after tonight's loss. Our opponents are top 10 in 3FGA/FGA against us. Tough to tell how much of that is Coach Brown's defensive strategy vs. the offensive strategy of teams we're playing.

 

Three-pointers continue to be a growing part of college basketball. I don't disagree that a team setting screens at the top of the key and passing the ball around the perimeter for 20+ seconds until they get a halfway decent outside look isn't exactly the most exciting basketball..but I couldn't care less if teams shoot 1 three or 100..as long as we win.

 

Even with teams going three-point heavy against us over the past coupe weeks..I think our health and offense are two biggest keys going forward. Too often the team is just forced to hope Cremo can create on his own. Nichols finished strong tonight..but mostly in junk time..and has been a streaky volume scorer..hasn't really been that efficient so far. Both Cremo and Nichols are struggling mightily from outside..so the defenses can sag off them a bit and completely collapse as soon as they put the ball on the floor. Rowley and Stire have been contributing well enough..but neither are really going to win a game with their offense. The team got just three points from the bench tonight. Tough to win that way.

 

Have four more non-conference games to continue to work on things and get healthy until the 'real' season starts.

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Cremo is shooting 17% from 3 and Nichols 24%, which is most likely due to playing a billion minutes. In my opinion a 13 point loss is no different than a 25 point loss. I would have rather seen Coach get the rest of the bench guys important minutes even if they can't play D.

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Canisius WAS chucking 3's (basically half of their shots from were 3), compared to us anyway but after looking at the data, no more than other teams. The reason is because we do not close out or run people off the line and we give guys so much space...but I was told you never cover people that far out so whatever.

I went ahead and made this...might be a bit hard to read due to formatting, maybe I'll find a more efficient way to show this data.

UAlbany Wins																								
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																								
Opponent	FGM		FGA		FG%		FTM		FTA		FT%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		RBG		AST		TO	
Penn State	30	27	61	63	49.2%	42.9%	20	18	25	22	80.0%	81.8%	7	9	14	25	50.0%	36.0%	43	26	16	9	15	12
Oneonta*	38	20	81	71	46.9%	28.2%	16	11	25	13	64.0%	84.6%	5	5	12	27	41.7%	18.5%	69	31	15	11	12	13
Brown	        26	25	52	59	50.0%	42.4%	22	21	28	29	78.6%	72.4%	6	5	14	20	42.9%	25.0%	37	28	9	13	18	8
Siena	        27	23	52	49	51.9%	46.9%	21	19	32	25	65.6%	76.0%	6	7	12	22	50.0%	31.8%	29	31	15	11	6	11
Marist	        26	25	60	51	43.3%	49.0%	21	5	28	8	75.0%	62.5%	5	11	14	28	35.7%	39.3%	34	30	13	15	9	19
Colgate	        26	23	51	45	51.0%	51.1%	19	9	26	11	73.1%	81.8%	3	11	9	29	33.3%	37.9%	29	22	8	11	10	16
Total	        173	143	357	338	48.5%	42.3%	119	83	164	108	72.6%	76.9%	32	48	75	151	42.7%	31.8%	241	168	76	70	70	79
Average	        28.8	23.8	59.5	56.3	48.7%	43.4%	19.8	13.8	27.3	18.0	72.7%	76.5%	5.3	8.0	12.5	25.2	42.3%	31.4%	40.2	28.0	12.7	11.7	11.7	13.2
																								
UAlbany Losses																								
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																								
Opponent	FGM		FGA		FG%		FTM		FTA		FT%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		RBG		AST		TO	
Cincinatti	20	28	48	61	41.7%	45.9%	9	13	14	20	64.3%	65.0%	2	5	14	21	14.3%	23.8%	33	34	8	16	22	10
Grand Canyon	27	29	59	69	45.8%	42.0%	15	14	21	21	71.4%	66.7%	8	10	21	24	38.1%	41.7%	36	33	10	15	13	9
Holy Cross	21	18	45	46	46.7%	39.1%	8	6	10	10	80.0%	60.0%	1	11	9	29	11.1%	37.9%	20	37	15	12	18	9
Yale	        22	22	50	56	44.0%	39.3%	9	4	10	5	90.0%	80.0%	2	11	12	29	16.7%	37.9%	31	33	13	15	12	13
Canisius	27	26	66	57	40.9%	45.6%	8	13	8	17	100.0%	76.5%	2	12	11	28	18.2%	42.9%	37	35	11	20	13	14
Total	        117	123	268	289	43.7%	42.6%	49	50	63	73	77.8%	68.5%	15	49	67	131	22.4%	37.4%	157	172	57	78	78	55
Average	        23.4	24.6	53.6	57.8	43.8%	42.4%	9.8	10.0	12.6	14.6	81.1%	69.6%	3.0	9.8	13.4	26.2	19.7%	36.8%	31.4	34.4	11.4	15.6	15.6	11.0
																								
Total (all)	290	266	625	627	46.4%	42.4%	168	133	227	181	74.0%	73.5%	47	97	142	282	33.1%	34.4%	398	340	133	148	148	134
Average (all)	26.4	24.2	56.8	57.0	46.5%	42.9%	15.3	12.1	20.6	16.5	76.5%	73.4%	4.3	8.8	12.9	25.6	32.0%	33.9%	36.2	30.9	12.1	13.5	13.5	12.2

What I get from the data is that when we get to the line and out rebound teams, we win regardless of pretty much whatever else happens. We weren't nearly as aggressive as in other games. Again "bus legs", as Iati mentioned, may have had something to do with this.

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