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[MBB] Game #23: 1/24/18 - 7:00pm - @ Vermont


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Even without Lamb, Vermont's frontcourt is bigger and more skilled than the rest of the conference. I don't know that there's any way to game plan around that. That's one of the reasons they're so consistent.

 

I'm disappointed in this loss but Vermont is in the midst of a historic run right now and under 10% from three isn't going to beat them.

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Just so it gets mentioned.   Greig Stire went 6-9 from the floor. He led us in points, rebounds, assists and steals.

Game turned on that lucky chuck 3 pointer and Cremo missing the front end of the 1 and 1. Still plenty of time though but hate that!

lucky shot. unreal.

Rebound better in this game and this may very well be a W...this team can play with UVM if they bring consistent effort.

 

To your point, in each of our AE losses, we've been out rebounded. In our wins, we win the battle. It's about effort. That's all there is to it. Simple as that.

UAlbany Wins																																	
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																	
Opponent	Type	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Iona		OOC	69	67	24	26	62	59	38.7%	44.1%	4	4	15	22	26.7%	18.2%	17	11	19	14	89.5%	78.6%	47	27	6	14	1	6	0	3	13	7	16	21
Boston U	OOC	88	74	32	29	56	65	57.1%	44.6%	3	8	5	27	60.0%	29.6%	21	8	29	11	72.4%	72.7%	38	27	11	13	2	7	1	4	11	7	15	21
Yale		OOC	80	72	32	28	59	67	54.2%	41.8%	3	7	14	28	21.4%	25.0%	13	9	19	13	68.4%	69.2%	40	30	16	10	4	6	3	5	15	13	15	17
Oneonta		OOC	102	77	37	23	72	57	51.4%	40.4%	7	10	21	25	33.3%	40.0%	21	21	28	28	75.0%	75.0%	48	31	17	13	4	3	0	3	7	14	24	28
Dartmouth	OOC	91	73	34	27	64	49	53.1%	55.1%	8	8	17	17	47.1%	47.1%	15	11	16	12	93.8%	91.7%	28	25	13	11	8	5	0	7	12	20	13	19
Holy Cross	OOC	78	62	31	24	58	48	53.4%	50.0%	10	5	21	18	47.6%	27.8%	6	9	10	14	60.0%	64.3%	32	23	18	11	5	3	1	4	7	9	15	14
Colgate		OOC	75	69	25	25	59	55	42.4%	45.5%	6	8	18	22	33.3%	36.4%	19	11	23	16	82.6%	68.8%	39	24	14	9	7	7	1	1	11	9	15	20
Columbia	OOC	86	82	28	31	62	61	45.2%	50.8%	6	9	13	20	46.2%	45.0%	24	11	29	18	82.8%	61.1%	37	36	13	19	11	3	1	3	9	16	15	25
Bryant		OOC	84	68	33	24	61	61	54.1%	39.3%	9	11	17	26	52.9%	42.3%	9	9	13	16	69.2%	56.3%	40	27	21	21	2	10	2	4	14	9	14	16
Siena		OOC	74	69	26	24	55	50	47.3%	48.0%	5	9	15	20	33.3%	45.0%	17	12	25	17	68.0%	70.6%	30	27	11	10	8	5	1	3	12	16	15	22
Canisius	OOC	68	65	26	28	53	61	49.1%	45.9%	2	6	10	22	20.0%	27.3%	14	3	20	7	70.0%	42.9%	33	29	11	19	2	8	3	1	12	10	11	20
Kent State	OOC	78	68	23	28	46	68	50.0%	41.2%	7	3	18	20	38.9%	15.0%	25	9	32	13	78.1%	69.2%	32	35	20	13	4	4	4	2	11	11	18	25
Stony Brook	AE	78	65	29	25	55	60	52.7%	41.7%	6	10	9	20	66.7%	50.0%	14	5	17	8	82.4%	62.5%	37	28	20	17	2	5	8	5	11	9	11	18
Maine		AE	84	66	21	21	58	56	36.2%	37.5%	7	6	17	22	41.2%	27.3%	35	18	44	27	79.5%	66.7%	43	38	13	14	3	4	6	4	9	12	23	32
UMass-Lowell	AE	70	62	24	25	52	54	46.2%	46.3%	3	7	12	21	25.0%	33.3%	19	5	22	8	86.4%	62.5%	32	29	15	19	10	6	5	3	14	18	14	19
UMBC		AE	83	39	33	17	57	54	57.9%	31.5%	9	2	17	20	52.9%	10.0%	8	3	10	7	80.0%	42.9%	40	23	20	12	8	6	2	4	12	15	14	14
																																
Tot. W		OOC	973	846	351	317	707	701	49.6%	45.2%	70	88	184	267	38.0%	33.0%	201	124	263	179	76.4%	69.3%	444	341	171	163	58	67	17	40	134	141	186	248
		AE	315	232	107	88	222	224	48.2%	39.3%	25	25	55	83	45.5%	30.1%	76	31	93	50	81.7%	62.0%	152	118	68	62	23	21	21	16	46	54	62	83
																																
Avg. W		OOC	81.1	70.5	29.3	26.4	58.9	58.4	49.6%	45.2%	5.8	7.3	15.3	22.3	38.0%	33.0%	16.8	10.3	21.9	14.9	76.4%	69.3%	37.0	28.4	14.3	13.6	4.8	5.6	1.4	3.3	11.2	11.8	15.5	20.7
		AE	78.8	58.0	26.8	22.0	55.5	56.0	48.2%	39.3%	6.3	6.3	13.8	20.8	45.5%	30.1%	19.0	7.8	23.3	12.5	81.7%	62.0%	38.0	29.5	17.0	15.5	5.8	5.3	5.3	4.0	11.5	13.5	15.5	20.8
																																	
Tot. W			1288	1078	458	405	929	925	49.3%	43.8%	95	113	239	350	39.7%	32.3%	277	155	356	229	77.8%	67.7%	596	459	239	225	81	88	38	56	180	195	248	331
Avg. W			80.5	67.4	28.6	25.3	58.1	57.8	49.3%	44.0%	5.9	7.1	14.9	21.9	40.4%	32.4%	17.3	9.7	22.3	14.3	77.4%	65.9%	37.3	28.7	14.9	14.1	5.1	5.5	2.4	3.5	11.3	12.2	15.5	20.7
																																	
UAlbany Losses																																	
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																	
Opponent	Type	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Monmouth	OOC	73	81	26	28	54	56	48.1%	50.0%	3	8	11	18	27.3%	44.4%	18	17	28	24	64.3%	70.8%	41	29	5	12	2	7	3	4	15	8	23	24
Memphis		OOC	58	67	21	23	61	49	34.4%	46.9%	4	4	17	17	23.5%	23.5%	12	17	15	24	80.0%	70.8%	38	33	8	10	4	7	2	11	14	12	18	16
Louisville	OOC	68	70	27	24	74	57	36.5%	42.1%	6	9	20	21	30.0%	42.9%	8	13	12	21	66.7%	61.9%	52	37	9	11	2	4	2	10	10	7	19	19
Hartford	AE	64	72	23	25	54	50	42.6%	50.0%	8	9	19	18	42.1%	50.0%	10	13	14	13	71.4%	100.0%	28	30	14	15	7	8	3	9	12	14	16	18
New Hampshire	AE	61	64	20	25	49	62	40.8%	40.3%	4	10	14	24	28.6%	41.7%	17	4	27	6	63.0%	66.7%	34	41	10	13	4	4	2	0	10	10	16	22
Binghamton	AE	66	79	24	24	59	52	40.7%	46.2%	5	6	16	16	31.3%	37.5%	13	25	16	32	81.3%	78.1%	33	35	9	12	4	4	2	4	12	10	22	15
Vermont		AE	50	61	20	22	51	51	39.2%	43.1%	1	6	11	16	9.1%	37.5%	9	11	12	16	75.0%	68.8%	30	35	3	9	2	3	6	6	11	10	17	14
																															
Tot. L		OOC	199	218	74	75	189	162	39.2%	46.3%	13	21	48	56	27.1%	37.5%	38	47	55	69	69.1%	68.1%	131	99	22	33	8	18	7	25	39	27	60	59
		AE	241	276	87	96	213	215	40.8%	44.7%	18	31	60	74	30.0%	41.9%	49	53	69	67	71.0%	79.1%	125	141	36	49	17	19	13	19	45	44	71	69
																																	
Avg. L		OOC	66.3	72.7	24.7	25.0	63.0	54.0	39.2%	46.3%	4.3	7.0	16.0	18.7	27.1%	37.5%	12.7	15.7	18.3	23.0	69.1%	68.1%	43.7	33.0	7.3	11.0	2.7	6.0	2.3	8.3	13.0	9.0	20.0	19.7
		AE	60.3	69.0	21.8	24.0	53.3	53.8	40.8%	44.7%	4.5	7.8	15.0	18.5	30.0%	41.9%	12.3	13.3	17.3	16.8	71.0%	79.1%	31.3	35.3	9.0	12.3	4.3	4.8	3.3	4.8	11.3	11.0	17.8	17.3																																

Tot. L			440	494	161	171	402	377	40.0%	45.4%	31	52	108	130	28.7%	40.0%	87	100	124	136	70.2%	73.5%	256	240	58	82	25	37	20	44	84	71	131	128
Avg. L			62.9	70.6	23.0	24.4	57.4	53.9	40.3%	45.5%	4.4	7.4	15.4	18.6	27.4%	39.6%	12.4	14.3	17.7	19.4	71.7%	73.9%	36.6	34.3	8.3	11.7	3.6	5.3	2.9	6.3	12.0	10.1	18.7	18.3
																																	
Tot. (all)		1728	1572	619	576	1331	1302	46.5%	44.2%	126	165	347	480	36.3%	34.4%	364	255	480	365	75.8%	69.9%	852	699	297	307	106	125	58	100	264	266	379	459
Avg. (all)		75.1	68.3	26.9	25.0	57.9	56.6	46.6%	44.4%	5.5	7.2	15.1	20.9	36.5%	34.6%	15.8	11.1	20.9	15.9	75.6%	68.3%	37.0	30.4	12.9	13.3	4.6	5.4	2.5	4.3	11.5	11.6	16.5	20.0
			PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	

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Ball game. Blocking foul that looked like a charge to me.

Not really sure how that wasn't a charge. Not sure how he could have been more set. It was the lucky 3 at the end of the shot clock that ended the game.

 

 

I think that sequence went:

 

Down 2 with Nichols going to line - missed free throw.

On the other end, steal by Nichols, recovered by Duncan and then the duck-under three - down 5

Cremo to the line and misses - that's as close as we get.

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Gotta come out with the fire we had against UMBC. Maybe the media should write more mean articles to offend these guys and light a fire. Evidently that's the button that works on this group. They clearly ain't holding each other accountable and making each other play at 110%.

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Just so it gets mentioned.

 

Greig Stire went 6-9 from the floor. He led us in points, rebounds, assists and steals.

 

Love his toughness and grit but that's not a recipe for a win when your two supposed 'superstars' can barely make a dent in the game. Looks like last game was an aberration for David and he's regressing to mean (averaging 10 points on 3-40 shooting).

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This team doesn't have any leadership on the court! Nichols and Cremo spend more time crying/complaining then they do leading. It's a shame because they are talented individuals.

 

I hope I'm wrong - but I can't see them in the NCAAS until they have a drastic attitude change.

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7 deep and nothing from bench... Very surprising that we red shirted the whole freshman class and proceeded to have zero depth.

Our bench had two points, four rebounds, and one assist. UVMs bench, on the other hand, had ... two points, three rebounds, and one assist.
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Offensively speaking...this game had nothing to do with the benches. It had everything to do with David shooting 4-10 (again) and Joe not able to get his good shots due to Duncan playing good D. Again, it's 100x harder for Joe when David isn't 'on'. Having Campbell out on the floor with Joe doesn't help either because NO ONE respects Campbells shot. Charles spent some time on the bench (again)...

It's hard for Joe to do what Joe does when the defense can collapse on him.

 

But even that being said, if we just rebounded better we might have won this.

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Even without Lamb, Vermont's frontcourt is bigger and more skilled than the rest of the conference. I don't know that there's any way to game plan around that. That's one of the reasons they're so consistent.

 

I'm disappointed in this loss but Vermont is in the midst of a historic run right now and under 10% from three isn't going to beat them.

+1. UVM is a very good, athletic, and fundamentally-sound team. 19-0 against the AE is very possible. I do not think it is that we don't try or that we played so poorly; UVM is just better than us, and good teams will make you play poorly. That is how it works. Edited by UA_MA_2000
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Even without Lamb, Vermont's frontcourt is bigger and more skilled than the rest of the conference. I don't know that there's any way to game plan around that. That's one of the reasons they're so consistent.

 

I'm disappointed in this loss but Vermont is in the midst of a historic run right now and under 10% from three isn't going to beat them.

+1. UVM is a very good, athletic, and fundamentally-sound team. 19-0 against the AE is very possible. I do not think it is that we don't try or that we played so poorly; UVM is just better than us, and good teams will make you play poorly. That is how it works.

 

 

I'd agree, except bad/mediocre teams have made us play poorly. It remains a mystery, not sure how you beat the second place team in your league by 40+ and then do what we've done in other games. 40+ wins don't happen in conference, even if you're playing the worst team in your league. Still think it all clicks at some point, maybe it doesn't, who knows. Think a lot of it has to do with what Patch said...we gotta find a way to lock in when things are going against us instead of melting down.

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