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2018 MEN’S LACROSSE STATISTICIANS’ MANUAL

SECTION 6—FACEOFFS Philosophy.  Since  many  faceoff  men  must  depend  on  the statistics of faceoffs to provide an evaluation of their value, statisticians must be consistent in their assessment of faceoffs. Since the standard in faceoff stats is to award to the faceoff man the faceoff, whether he actually obtained possession or not, care should be taken to credit faceoffs properly. Additionally, ground balls should be credited in faceoff play (there can be more than one) as indicated in Section 5. Every faceoff has to end with players being credited and charged with a faceoff win and loss, unless the quarter ends before possession is established. Unlike women’s lacrosse, the two players who participate in the faceoff are the only players who can be credited and charged with a faceoff win and loss.

Article  1. A  faceoff  win  is  determined  by  clear  possession  of the ball, not by the subsequent offensive opportunity. A standard alternative to that definition is to credit and charge the faceoff when one team is declared to have possession of the ball, and wing area players are released. This is not really a viable definition since a team may never have a chance to do anything with the ball.

Article 2. Credit the faceoff to the team that gains clear possession of the ball and can perform the normal functions of the possession, not based on the possession that is called by the referee. The referee’s signal of possession has no influence on the statistical determination of faceoff wins and losses. The referee’s signal frequently precedes the statistical definition of possession.

        A.R.  1.  Player  A1  faces  off  for  his  team.  He  has  clear  possession  of  the  ball  in  the  faceoff  situation,  but  the  ball  is  immediately  checked  away.  Opponent  B1  picks  up  the  ground  ball,  and  his  team  maintains  possession  of  the  ball.  Credit the faceoff to Team A because A1 established possession of the faceoff.

        A.R. 2. The ball goes out of bounds on the faceoff before a team gains possession of the ball. Credit the faceoff to the team  that  is  awarded  the  ball  on  the  out-of-bounds  play.  If  neither  team  is  credited  with  the  ball  out  of  bounds,  delay  the  crediting  of  the  faceoff  until  the  subsequent  reface  is  concluded.

       A.R. 3. Before either team can obtain the faceoff, a player on either team is charged with a foul or violation. Credit the offended team with the faceoff, if one team gets the ball. In the  case  of  a  double  foul,  or  any  other  violation  requiring  a  reface  of  the  ball,  wait  to  credit  the  faceoff  until  the  play  is  complete.

      A.R. 4. A goal is scored near the end of a period. If there is  no  faceoff,  no  faceoff  shall  be  credited  statistically.  If  the  faceoff  occurs,  credit  and  charge  the  faceoff  as  judgment  allows  by  determining  possession  (or  something  very  close  to it) when the period is ended. No faceoff shall be credited when the quarter expires before one player gains clear pos-session.

     A.R.  5.  If  a  period  ends  in  an  uneven  situation,  such  that  there  will  be  no  faceoff  to  start  the  next  period,  no  faceoff  statistics should be recorded.

     A.R. 6. If there should be an extra faceoff during a period for any reason, credit and charge the faceoff according to the above rules.

     A.R. 7. Player A1 wins the faceoff, retreats to the defensive end and turns the ball over. Credit A1 with a faceoff win.

     A.R. 8. If player A1 and opponent B1 face off, and A1 wins the faceoff and picks up the ball, credit A1 with a faceoff win and a ground ball.

    A.R. 9. If player A1 and opponent B1 face off, and team-mate A2 is the first player to get clear possession, credit A1 with a faceoff win and A2 with a ground ball.

 

SO TD should have several more wins - especially in the game yesterday.  I only saw ONE time where he did not have possession.

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That's what Virginia  fans said.

I can tell you this team is focused. Great group of seniors and very little monkeying around.

Until the day I'm Marr and have an actual impact on the game... I'll say again bring in the next lamb.    What I bloviate about on these forums has zero impact on the outcome. 

1 hour ago, uofalbany said:

That’s always been the rule.   Anyone ruling Otherwise is breaking the rules.

Absolutely!   What I was saying is that who ever is keeping our stats needs a review of the rules I think!!

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