SienaTony

Just a quick stop to say good luck tonight, me thinks you’re going to need it- Looking forward to a good game where everyone stays healthy. I’ll be in my Center court chair back seat hopefully cheering Saints on to victory

 

I can't remember the last time that LCC played on the UA campus. It certainly hasn't been at SEFCU, but the last game was in University Gym back in the Division III days. I'm guessing LCC last played at UA almost 40 years ago in the mid-to-late 70's. So I think that every half century or so they can play where we feel more comfortable.

 

Patsos can flap his gums all he wants...alternate or scrap the series. Enough already with always being at their gym. No other D1 team would put up with this...neither should we. Give them an ultimatum and they can bounce and get someone else to come in and fill their arena to the tune of 11k. We'll see how quickly they run back...beat it! The days of a small liberal arts school struggling financially dictating terms to a flagship campus of the largest state university system in the country are over! If they had any alternative, they wouldn't have agreed to come this year, call their bluff.

 

 

Hahaha typical delushional post- it was Patsos who wanted the game at Sefcu- Darg didn’t want it, but in the end relented. Darg is taking a lot of heat for this game- win lose or draw tonight you will not see Siena back at sefcu. If that’s the end of the series so be it

 

 

Also, just a note Tony, you can't start out by calling someone "Booby" and then get outraged when someone else calls you "stooge." I can't believe I had to type those words to adults.

Me and Boob87 go way back -- you cant talk about delusional fans bases and leave good ole Bob out. I dont even know who that name calling whack job Eli is- I'm not responsible for every post on Siena anymore than you are responsible for every off the wall posts on this board .. But I do get what you are saying DP- you run a good board and I respect that.. Tony Out... Sorry for interruption boys..see you a few days before the game for some good ole fashioned smack talk

Who you calling a stooge? I didn’t complain about freezing anyone out—it’s called a comment Eli- no need to get “testy” Nor am I interested in your “history “ lesson or comments on delusional Siena fans- please read some posts on this board and get back to me about delusional.

I wasn’t here complaining about game at Sefcu—or whether Siena should play at Sefcu at all. If you want to get into that discussion, I’d be more than happy to school you.

And I’m glad you are OK with playing game at TUC.. when you are in charge of negotiations it will mean something to me- until then care less what a know nothing UA fan thinks -- fans from small conference teams that draw flies don’t normally get to set the terms..LOL.. enjoy the game at Sefcu this year—save the insults and dumb comments

Sorry Booby not disappointed at all—I have my center court chair back season tickets. And yeah I’m glad UA got the new screen—bout time they put some improvements into the old "gym"--- and BTW it will be much more than me and my 4 Siena friends at game..question will be how many more? What do you guys think? 500--- 1000—1500 how many Siena fans will get into game? And how many UA fans will be frozen out? Any opinions. Personally I think about 1,000 Siena fans get in.. Another 200 to 500 dignitary seats.. Which leaves what about 3K for UA students and fans—pretty much looks like if you don’t have season tickets or empire package you will not get into game. But I’ll defer to you guys- you know the ins and outs better than me. All I know for sure is I’ll be there.

 

 

 

 

This basically forces Siena fans to pay $125 for one game (since I doubt most would come back for the other Empire games), or $100+ for season tickets (and again, most wouldn't come back for anything else) + concessions/parking...I LOVE IT. The public ones will sell out real fast. But $40+ is pricey for the casual fan who isn't a die hard of either team but once to go to a good event...how much are the tickets at TUC for this matchup usually (I don't remember)?

 

Either way...charge them through the nose and give their measly school a tiny cut of the profits like we always got. Tit for tat, bros!

I'm all for taking Siena fans money, but to charge UA GDAC members/season ticket holders $40/60 to get additional seats is a bit ridiculous. So based on my current $125 plan, 32% of it is going towards that one game.

So you expect a discount for hot seats just because you already own other seats somewhere else in the arena? I don't think that's fair either. Due to the demand for this game, the prices are higher. You're paying the same $40-60 that a fan off the street who's going to their first ever UA game would pay. You just get first stab at them...which is nice perk.

 

I don't think it's unfair, honestly. But then again, I only own one seat as of today.

It's not so much wanting a discount for season ticket holders. Its more the price being set too high in general. Giving season ticket holders first crack for individual tix is def a nice perk no doubt, but is the demand really there for them to charge $40 and $60 to go see this game? This is a Sunday game at 7pm on Thabksgiving weekend. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Guess we will find out.

I wouldn't pay that price for a game against a lowly maac team if it wasn't part of my season ticket package and I haven't asked friends who join me for a few games and year if they are interested at that price. Then again there are more than 340 division 1 teams that I think are worth more money than lcc

 

That’s great news Bob—I bet you make all UA fans proud..LOL. I have my UA season tickets and will buy 2 more seats for Siena game when available. That’s good News Bob you don’t want to buy the extra Siena seats, just leaves more seats for another Siena fan to gobble up.. You keep fighting the good fight Bob..LOL

Congrats guys on a great college basketball game last night. I shouldn’t butt in…but can’t help myself

I don’t get the ragging on Peter Hooley? As a Siena fan he was player I feared the most ( maybe because I’m a big Peter Hooley fan- he is by far my favorite Dane) kid is an absolute warrior, was trying to make things happen out there and was only Dane that could consistently get inside without getting his shot swatted back at him. We want our players to be error free, but remember these kids are college kids, Peter played his heart out. And just my 2 cents -Without Peter Hooley last night UA loses that game by 15 to 20 points

I was very happy game wasn’t a 1 point loss for Joe Cremo- kid is a good looking freshmen and will be a great players for Danes down the road- he was beside himself after that ball went into hoop. Was impressed the way Brown and Basset consoled him after play

Anyway for those of you that attended the game, you got to see a very competitive fun college basketball game. UA has a very solid team and will win a lot of games this year. Good luck and see you next year at Sefcu!!

 

 

RealtimeRPI predictor just flipped today to a one-point Albany win (52.4%). Women are down for a 20-point win (95.4%).

 

Sagarin predictor is $iena by 0.31 points, and that's only if the TUC gets the full home-court advantage.

Sounds to me like game is a tossup- too bad AE teams dont get Vegas lines, love to know how the betting public would see this game

This is a toss up I'd agree. I've seen Siena several times and it's a good team this year. My biggest concern is more centered on UA... Will the Yale, Marist, Colgate UA show up or bu, usf UA show up. Can't afford the long scoring droughts we get into.

 

OK I lied back again.. Have some time to kill.. Ilko please my friend don’t put words into my mouth, first of all I almost never talk about Olympic sports, women’s basketball Lacrosse or any other sport since I don’t follow them, I have nothing against them, just don’t follow them and seldom comment on them one way or another- if your reading something about them on my board, it’s not from me. A few years ago when football stadium opened I actually PM’d several members of this board and commented how much I liked stadium and how much fun I had at the game, in fact I’m quite sure I made those comments on Siena board. I think it’s quite obvious Albany has a great athletic department, sorry if I don’t say that enough for your liking

I go to the games at sefcu because I like college basketball since I already go to a few games and I want to go to Siena UA game, I’ll buy UA season tickets next year, allows me to cherry pick UA games- and when I’m there I’ll root for Danes, and BTW I won’t be alone, I expect several hundred Siena fans will do same. It will be ironic when some members of this board don’t get into game because it’s at sefcu

I don’t really get the I hate UA or all UA fans hate Siena attitude, most of you guys (not all) are as bad as some Siena posters hating the other school, not all, but rest assured the over the top talk goes both ways – ( read some of Bobs posts with unbiased view and get back to me..LOL) just as much "over the top" on this board as Siena board.. and hey that’s OK, as long as everyone remembers it’s just a game have fun talk a little smack.. and don’t get carried away

Enjoy!!

And for full disclosure for some of you guys ( and or gals) I really have no problem with UA at all. I go to a few UA football games a year a few UA Men’s basketball games. In fact I’m quite sure I’ll buy chair back season tickets next year. Ta ta for now I’ll check back in tomorrow win or lose tonight!!

It's really pathetic when the fans of a program like Siena's, recently, can only hang their hats on attendance figures.

Hi Patch-- how are you? - and agree-- been a tough 5 years!!

RealtimeRPI predictor just flipped today to a one-point Albany win (52.4%). Women are down for a 20-point win (95.4%).

 

Sagarin predictor is $iena by 0.31 points, and that's only if the TUC gets the full home-court advantage.

Sounds to me like game is a tossup- too bad AE teams don’t get Vegas lines, love to know how the betting public would see this game

 

Things like putting an asterisk next to our Washington win, etc. just tick me off. I signed up for that site during the whole contract back and forth a year or two again but they must have known I was a UA fan cause they never approved my account. I'm glad I can't post there. It would shorten my life span.

 

Click is out numbered there.

 

Their worst posters, IMO, are 'olddave' and 'Tony' (the admin). Those dudes are seriously whack.

 

You have a CC team that has to go back to last century for a team good enough to make the ncaa tournament in a year they did not purchase the conference tournament and THEY want to put an asterisk on another teams accomplishments. Yeah OK.

It is not like they ever earned a right to play a conference tournament game at home like teams in other conferences like the AE have.

 

Yes those Siena teams that won 44 out of 47 MAAC games and 2 NCAA games should really have an asterisk..LOL.. is Bob your best and brightest poster? LOL

 

 

Things like putting an asterisk next to our Washington win, etc. just tick me off. I signed up for that site during the whole contract back and forth a year or two again but they must have known I was a UA fan cause they never approved my account. I'm glad I can't post there. It would shorten my life span.

 

Click is out numbered there.

 

Their worst posters, IMO, are 'olddave' and 'Tony' (the admin). Those dudes are seriously whack.

Olddave is seriously delusional... I've been on that board a long time. Tony is the guy that for years insisted SIENA would never play at sefcu. Guy is taking his medicine right now. Fell flat on his face with that one.

 

Come at me bro...

 

 

I would love to see old Tony denied a seat at SEFCU next year, or do you think finding him a far corned would be punishment enough? Finally, after six years LCC will have to enter our house!

 

Sorry Boys I'll be there next year ( I already go to a few UA games every year) - Don't be haters...as for insisting Siena would never play at Sefcu-- that was when Fran was coach( maybe early in Mitch's term not really sure) --Times change. I obviously don't make the schedule for Siena, all I can do is give my opinion. As for Siena dictating terms to UA-- never said that either. Siena owes UA nothing, UA owes Siena nothing- if the game makes sense for both schools you do it, otherwise skip it. For some reason you guys think you are entitled to something from Siena. Siena doesn't owe UA a home game or anything else for that matter.

Anyway thought I’d swing by and say Good luck tonight, hope we have a good college game where everyone leaves healthy!!

And fellas it’s only a game—no reason for the hate ..Carry on boys!!

Tony at this point in time $iena is behind UA in Men's & Women's Basketball as well as overall athletics.

 

The one thing you have is an aging, large capital region fan base.

 

It's tough when that's all you can currently hang your hat on. Our attendance fits right in there with all AE, NEC and MAAC teams (except $iena). "It is what it is" but pretty soon you and the $iena fanatics should stop counting fans and start counting "W"s.

Overall athletics no question UA all the way —men’s and women’s basketball not even close. UA had a better team the last few years but Siena has a far superior program( I know that hurts you UA fans but its the truth dont be bitter From tradition ,Facilities ( Siena practice and locker facilities are far superior to UA’s right now and they are about to get better with 20 million practice facility) Media attention , budget , Fan support it’s not even close— from a few of the clowns on this board ( Bob) I would expect that.. but I know you know better than that Patch-Hope and pray for a win tonight- UA is the favorite..Siena is playing a bunch of freshmen..according to clack nobody on Siena would start for UA-- So UA in a route eh? If not will it be the coaching, the talent ? get your excuses ready now

Good luck tonight boys-- one thing though , if you are going to quote me, please do so correctly- never said our guards will cause havoc. Jimmy’s press is designed more to speed up opponent than to turn you over. Might see a bit more trapping tonight to see how UA’s unproven backcourt handles it. As you guys will see tonight Siena has much more overall team speed than UA- So Siena will try and push the pace. UA has more experience and size and will try to control the tempo and make it a half court slug it out game ( favors UA) . Had Maurice White been healthy Siena might have started 4 freshmen tonight- as it is starting 3 freshmen- normally not a recipe for success, but these are talented kids, so UA better get them this year, might be your last chance for a while ..

Nice to see so many UA fans coming in from all over the country for this game. Do you think you get more people at this game than any other regular season game in Albany? I have many UA friends and they love this game at the TUC- gives UA a taste of playing in front of a big crowd in your home city- has to be great experience for the UA players. I always wondered why UA Doesn’t get more fan support, do you think Brown’s half court style plays into that ? or maybe his career record? And please note this is not a shot—honest question on why UA doesn’t draw better You have had some decent teams, but UA lags far behind Siena basketball, but probably also RPI and Union hockey ( don’t know that for sure)

Congrats on the win. How about this.. The greatest Non-Conference win in UA history

Siena Tony's starting to hedge instead of taking a firm stance

 

 

 

 

Patch’s obsession with Siena continues … I’m not hedging a bit. I think Siena will be a pretty good squad this year, how good remains to be seen. Obviously Siena has some question marks.. Hey patch why don’t you ask your coach Will Brown how good Siena will be.And to clear up a few of your at best misrepresentations at worst lies

 

If healthy Haddix is one of the better big men in the MAAC.. Care to dispute that patch?

 

Hasbrouck is Siena’s best defender and evidently at least one pre season mag picked him as the best defender in the MAAC- Care to dispute that Patch?

 

Edwin Ubiles was picked as the best incoming recruit in the MAAC by just about every recruiting service. Care to dispute that Patch? No Siena fan said he would be ALL MAAC. I’m not even sure Edwin will start for the Saints this season. He is a freshmen

 

Tay Fisher and David Ryan are both solid players neither will make a ALL MAAC team both are solid role players capable of averaging double figures this season-

Care to dispute that Patch?

 

Magee, Franklin and Moore are solid MAAC level recruits that are legitimate division one players - Care to dispute that Patch?

 

Diop is one of my favorite Siena players, the kid isn’t that talented but plays hard every time out. He won’t get a lot of time this season but he is still gives it his all every second on the floor- No Siena fan has hyped Carr or Diop

 

Marist is deservedly the pre season favorite and every Siena fan acknowledges that. Care to dispute that Patch?

 

Patch this is mid major hoops you really need to relax with your obsession with Siena .

Rumor has it they will pull green sweatshirts over the backs of the seats to scare NJIT into thinking the place is packed.  On a side note, anyone interested in going to check out the free vets vs. rooks game they are having at the TUC.  I don’t think I’d mind since they don’t make money and I can see what the hype is all about.

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Told you guys I’d be back in the fall. So many subjects and so little time. Yea the NJIT will be small attendance wise no doubt. But to put it in perspective there still will be more people there than at any Albany home game. And that’s not a knock on Albany, just the fact the ARC is too small for Siena. As for Season tickets sorry to tell you guys they are on the upswing. You always have people who renew late or wait until the fall to buy season tickets.( I know they sold quite a few at the meet and greet a few weeks ago) The final number this year should be about 3000 season tickets ( and that’s for men’s game) although I don’t know for sure I’d guess the women have 400 or 500 season ticket holders. I guess it kind of depends on what kind of start the men have as to how attendance goes this year. I’d like to see them get over 6,000 this year average wise , seems attainable to me.

As for the hype over freshmen. People always get excited over freshmen ( and its understandable) the thing to keep in mind they are freshmen and as one wise man said the best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores I do expect 4 of the freshmen to get playing time this season. How much depends on how ready they are for D1 basketball. Perhaps Ubiles will start but even that’s not a guarantee

On another note congrats on the signing of Billy Allen. My hat is off to Will Brown he is really doing a terrific job at Albany, slowly but surely increasing the quality of your recruits.

I don’t wanna spend too much time on this board ( I know how much you guys like to read my posts on this board ;-) but just wanted to say good luck in the upcoming season!!

Hey Dane 96 - i see your name as the last poster on the Siena board string about the exempt tournament; yet i see no post.  Did you get deleted, or have they banned you.  Shame on you for laughing at their refering to UAlbany as a Community College.  FWIW, while I love the rivalry aspect of Siena and UAlbany, I really don't think we should be calling their institution a Community College either.  While we may have issues with their fans or their athletic programs, personally, i don't think it's right to disrespect the institution as a place of higher education.

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LOL...what a mullet. My last post actually agreed with the moratorium on Siena-UA bashing in that thread. I reminded Tony, however, it was his fan who made the comment first.

 

Then I responded to a fan comment by stating we had only 7 years of being a DI, hence we couldnt have the fan support as Siena does...YET.

 

I would never want to grow up in the ST household...

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A few things for you Albany posters I didn’t come over and call any of you personal names, I came with info on the tournament’s limited as it is, I won’t stoop to Patch name calling level, suffice to say her petty personal attacks speaks volumes for her character or should I say lack there of.

As for Dane 96,( basically one of the few informed Albany posters) unfortunately the name calling started on this board and spilled over to the Siena board. I deleted your posts because Siena posters would have felt compelled to answer your post. After my post saying this thread would not degenerate into a Albany Vs Siena pi$$ing match I locked the thread.

For Ua66.. no such thing as first amendment rights on a private message board. The Siena board is not a government message board. If you don’t like it UA66 I suggest you stop reading the Siena board.

Enjoy the off season girls C ya in the fall

I'll admit there are some good elements to the tourney as described but there also have been no specifics. As an Albany fan, I'm skeptical about any Siena proposal just as I'm sure they would be if we invited them to join us in some time of tournament.

 

The thing I guess I don't understand about the discussion is that teams like UMass are being mentioned. I don't see what benefit it would have for a team like that. Under the proposed format as I understand it they would get a home game, a road game and then two at the Pepsi. Guessing that they would likely play Siena and Albany in Albany that would be essentially two road games for them. I don't see what's in it for them and why they would buy in. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

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Dane Pound I just threw Umass out there. I have no information on specific teams invited to play in the tournament. The appeal of the tournament is you get 4 games that only count as one against your schedule. You get a chance to accumulate some wins against what is hopefully a quality field. Actually with both Siena and Albany looking at good years it might discourage some teams, for instance Umass could balk at the idea of playing Albany and Siena on consecutive days at the Pepsi, very good chance Umass would lose them both. On the other hand if Umass could beat both teams it would look good on their resume. I’m still convinced the success or failure of the tournament will depend on the quality of the teams invited. If the MAAC can get at least 5 or 6 strong teams (with projected RPI of better than 150) I think the tournament will be a success. According to KnickSaint (who normally has excellent info) Albany has agreed to play in the event. And it makes sense. KnickSaint also said the Mid American conference has agreed to play also. So now it comes down to the quality of the teams we get from the CAA, MAC Patriot etc. We start out very strong with Alb being a contender in the AE and Siena being a contender in the MAAC.

From a fan Point of view I hope Ualb and Siena fans as well as causal college basketball fans support the event. We get to see our team 3 or 4 times in a week. It would be nice to see the event here once every 4 years. Both Siena and Ualb would benefit from playing the games in Albany as the home team in college basketball has a very distinct advantage. In this case I see the tournament as a benefit to both Siena and Albany and college basketball in general for the capital district

One other thing the bracket buster has no effect on this tournament. The bracket buster is a single game event and as such is not "exempt"

Since UVM was a 13 seed the year before, I wouldn't worry about being permanently assigned a 16; Tony should give his oh-so-valuable advice to his own team on how to avoid the PIG - whenever they ever get in again.

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I’m not trying to give you guys a hard time, and if every post I make I’m going to get juvenile attacks, I’ll refrain from posting on this site ( at least until two weeks before the game;-)

If you don’t want to play in the tournament then fine. I think the tournament would be better with Albany involved. But it is your coaches choice and if he decides to go I hope Albany fans support him

Nobody is saying Albany will always get a 16, but getting a higher seed doesn’t happen by accident, you have to schedule better or have a tougher league or preferable a combination of both. Those are the cold hard facts

As for Vermont and a 13 seed, Ok the Cats that year had wins over teams ranked 32,42 and 44 , also had quality losses ( less than 10 points) to teams ranked 33,10 and 102. That’s how Vermont got a 13 seed. As good as that Vermont team was do you think they get a first round win with a 16 seed? No way

Albany took a big step forward last season. To continue moving forward eventually Albany will have to upgrade the schedule, I think we can all agree on that correct?

As for Siena avoiding the PIG, What does this have to do with the subject matter of Ualb in the exempt tournament ? Why do all you Albany fans feel compelled to put a wise crack in your response?

I’ll l address the issue- I agree it sucked that Siena was in the PIG,, as long as we don’t have Lanier I think we will be all right.

I’m all for scheduling as tough as you can, as long as you have a reasonable chance of a win. One or at max two guarantee games aren’t a bad thing, but you really don’t want any more of that. The more top 150 teams you can get into your home area the more chances you have for a victory. And for Albany it’s a better bump than Siena, since Siena is the home team they won’t get as big a RPI push as Albany will. Unless you play more than 3 games in a arena as the home team it is considered a neutral site game. We all know Albany playing anyone other than Siena in the Pepsi and Albany will enjoy a tremendous home court support . And in the end as fans don’t we want to see our teams play the best competition they can and still reasonably compete? Am I wrong thinking this way?

S-Tony, can you speak any more patronizingly? You speak about the great advantages UAlbany will reap by participating. 'Should WE make it back - it might help to get us a better seed'. Don't be lecturing anyone about the advantages of a higher seed - all based on the lightning Siena caught in a bottle one season long ago.

 

Who the hell are you? Should YOU make it back, it might help YOU get a better seed. I'm confident UAlbany will be back long before loudenville.

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Why the attitude King Dane? As for speaking patronizingly? By what saying the tournament has advantages for ualb?? Hey if you don’t want to play in the tournament fine. But only a fool would say it has no advantages ( I guess that explains your take King Dane )

Sorry King Dane I didn’t realize making it make to the NCAA tournament was a now a “given’ for Ualb?

I leave it at that. Hopefully Albany gets in the Exempt tournament, if not the tournament will still go on. Good luck!!

If UA chose not to be involved it would be interesting how Siena's great fan base would support the other games.

 

I don't see any benefit for us to be involved.

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Patch I don’t think there is any question, Siena fans would not support the opposite bracket in droves. You’d get some die-hards there, but not that many. I would guess if Alb choose not to play in the tournament, A combination of Vermont and Marist ( both teams fans base travel well)in the opposite bracket would bring in close to as many fans as Ualb would. Although obviously from a tournament POV having Albany in the tournament is much more desirable

You guys are pretty funny, first of all its not Siena’s tournament, it’s the MAAC. Siena won’t get any more money out of this tournament than Albany or any other team competing in the tournament. Secondly you get to see your team 4 times in a week without leaving the city of Albany. Siena only plays in Albany 3 times (with one road game) Third I agree with you guys if the teams selected to play are weak teams the tournament will die a quick death. It’s not what conference the teams are from but how strong they are. The tournament could be very beneficial for Albany. The more “quality” wins you can get the better the seed you will get should you be fortunate enough to win your league. That’s assuming the tournament has quality teams. A few wins over top 150 programs could do wonders for Ualb NCAA seed considerations. Hey Albany played a nice game against Uconn last year, but a 16 has still never won a game. The difference between a 16 seed and a 14 seed is enormous. Every year it seems a 13 or 14 seed wins a NCAA game. With the AE being down the only way for Albany to improve its possible NCAA seed is to play and win some Out of conference games against top 150 teams. And getting to play top 150 teams in Albany is a tremendous advantage for Ualb. The home team wins like 70% of games in NCAA D1

Overall I like the idea of the tournament, assuming the MAAC is able to get quality teams involved. I’ll reserve judgment until the list of teams is released. Other than making the Siena/Ualb game mid week, I really don’t see much downside from a Albany POV. And again that’s assuming we have quality teams in the tournament

It should be interesting to see how Siena Tony spins this bit of info.

 

Tony is forever disparaging AE recruits as not being MAAC level players but when two UVM players decide to leave, two MAAC teams on the rise scoffed them up.

 

Duell to Siena - 7.4ppg/3.9rpg - .405FG%/.313 3PFG%

 

Schneider to Marist - 6.4ppg/4.7rpg - .317FG%/.317 3PFG%

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Patchy why the attitude? Never said good players in the AE wouldn’t be good players in the MAAC. Generally speaking MAAC players are slightly better and the teams are deeper and more talented. Don’t take my word for it, ask your coach or ask someone at the City Rocks. The fact of the matter is the MAAC is a higher rated conference and has been most years. Anyone that knows a lick about College basketball knows that, perhaps that explains why your having trouble comprehending it. Having said that it’s not like AE players aren’t Division 1 players. Generally speaking the top 3 or 4 teams in the AE could play in the MAAC no problem. Take this year for example Albany was the best in the AE and Siena was 4th in the MAAC. Yet Siena beat Ualb and although the numbers suggest the teams were close most would say Siena was better because they won head to head match up.. Either way its debatable yet Siena was only a 4th place team in the MAAC what does that tell you? I don't have to break out conference RPI do I?

As for Duell and Schneider, both are solid D1 players , I doubt either will be a star in the MAAC, both will probably be role players. Nothing wrong with that. What are you suggesting with your post Patch? I do find it interesting the never ending need for Albany posters to bring up Siena. Hope that answers your question patch