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Happened my freshman year.  Forced us (track team) to practice in the tunnels.  Running around students, cushmen, and garbage with the temp ranging from 0 to 80 degrees.  Good times.

We decided to stop scoring.

Not bad.  Would’ve liked to have a PG in the game at the end but a decent showing.

Bobs Trees.  No relation to the above Bob87.

People donate where they want to donate but I find this ask a bit insensitive given what’s going on.  My opinion if the school is going to have a fundraiser like this they should be directing our donations elsewhere.  
 

Normal times we all obviously “donate” some of our funds here even when there are greater needs but it just feels off to me at this time.  

And yet other schools are somehow having positives but still playing games.  Syracuse had a walk on player test positive and is only quarantining certain players (as of Friday).

How is it that I'm watching tons of BB from around the country and we can't get through a couple weeks of practice?

Big 10 reversing course gives me some hope that common sense will start to come back as part of the decision making process.

Agree 100% not Benson’s call.  He may not have even been given a courtesy call for his opinion.

That said, to me this is a PR move more than a science based safety move.  Nobody can be wrong in the wrong direction.  I get it.  Over the top better safe than sorry.  My two cents.

Does cancelling sports suddenly remove these kids from society?   Will cancelling/pausing athletics stop them from gathering?  They will still live off campus.  They will still get together.  If they wear their masks when the go to stores, restaurants and other places aren't they really only putting themselves/each other at risk.

Sorry, other than punishing them I'm not sure what shutting it down accomplishes other than maybe, maybe slowing the spread between each other.  

Serious question:  After UNC had it's outbreak did the surrounding areas see any measurable bump?  Maybe too soon in Oneonta but we're approaching 2 weeks.  Has the city of Oneonta (other than the students) seen a big jump.  Not sure if the data is readily available but I'd love to know.

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I guess he's protecting the staff.  But the kids?  Up to 1,249 cases w/ ONE hospitalization.  Meanwhile a new CDC study shows that "25.5% of respondents between the ages of 18 and 24 reported having seriously considered suicide in the previous 30 days."   We continue to view this in a vacuum.  There is another side of this Covid equation that is just swept under the rug.  And I'm not downplaying the deaths that have happened but there is no better place for these kids to be than the classroom and the athletic fields.  

From the CDC there's been 315 deaths in 15-24 year olds due to Covid since 2/1/20.  Meanwhile there's been 19,998 total deaths over the same period for the same population.  In that age group your 63X's more likely to die from something other than Covid.

1 hour ago, jimbo said:

Where does that data come from? I just checked and there's been 543 positives in the whole SUNY system to date and 60% of those are in Oneonta. 

https://www.suny.edu/covid19-tracker/

Sorry, top of the page its the "estimated" (in lighter font) total positives.  I think we're on the same page here for our date.  Wether it's the 543 or 1,156 there's been ONE hospitalization.  59,204 tested.   A hospitalization rate of .0017%.  

According to the SUNY website there’s been 1,156 positives and ONE hospitalization.  Shut it down.  

So a bunch of healthy kids got together with a bunch of other healthy kids (while clearly breaking the rules) and we’re shutting it down for everybody and sending in SWAT teams (see Oneonta)?  Seems appropriate.

What, no Track & Field?  The 400 times in a row AE Champs.

1 hour ago, BestDaneSinceHamlet said:

Without going too far down this rabbit hole I’ve yet to see any people of science in much disagreement.  Only certain elected officials disregarding or ignoring science 

Two weeks ago scientists said no need for masks.  Two weeks ago science was predicting much higher death tolls (even with social distancing).  Science changes.
 

Science unfortunately is not an exact science.   

7 hours ago, Eli said:

I mean 1-2 bonafide scorers like Cam. You can't have 3 or even 4 Cams (not enough shots to go around and hard to recruit that due to those guys wanting to be option 1 or 2, not 3 or 4) . But you can't have 4 Hanks either. What I mean is 2 Cams + 1 end of freshmen year Malachi (someone who will get you 10 a game but can go for 15 or so if one or both Cams are guarded close). With 3 of those on the floor you'll be fine...defense wins championships, right? 

A bit dated (not intentionally but I recognize this discounts Virginia’s win) but no defense doesn’t win championships.  It’s really a balancing act but seems to lean on offense.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-10/nine-years-college-basketball-data-show-offense-matters-more%3famp

1 hour ago, Eli said:

Some of you folks seem to not understand that opportunities to score are limited. Hank is garbage and should be replaced because he can't score? HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TOO! His only jobs are to take up space inside, rotate on people driving into the lane, rebound and try not to foul in the process. That's it. And he did all but one of those (fouls) exceptionally well IMO. I was the first to call him out as a strong defender last year and by the end of the year most of you agreed cause you stopped trying to see him score 10ppg. If he scores 10ppg, that means he had like 15 rebounds.

We need 2-3 scorers from the starting five and 2-3 from the bench. Everyone else plays defense. You can't have a team of 15ppg scorers. Basketball doesn't work that way. No one at our level is averaging 100ppg. You need 1-2 to average 17ppg, 1-2 to average 13ppg and then the rest get the scraps of 5-6ppg.

All I want is to not have to watch guards chuck 3's for 40 minutes like Nichols and Clark. If these guys can penetrate, I'll be happy. I don't care if they penetrate and dish to an open 3 and that 3 is missed, that's a smart play and a good shot albeit low percentage...but I'm tired of watching people jack contested 3's because 'we have no one else' or take 3's with 25 seconds on the clock or 5 ft behind the line. I'd prefer an attack and dish to a mid-range jumper or a cutter to the basket though.

I tend to disagree w the premise of only having 2 “scorers” on the floor at the same time.  That’s how you end up chucking contested 3’s.  One Hanks on the floor is okay.  2 or 3 defense and rebound guys kills an offense.  Plus it’s terribly boring to watch.  
 

I love the idea of driving and dishing to open 3’s.  But if the guy driving isn’t a finisher, and the inside guys aren’t finishers, then the 2 scorers will still be covered no?  I need 3 scorers and one more that is at least a threat.  I’d like the 5th to be competent offensively unless he’s a stud on the defensive end.  Hanks May be good, but not a stud.

I try to keep my opinions in the reasonable arena.

No, third place doesn't get a coach fired, nor should it.  It doesn't mean he can't be criticized either. This team may finish in third, but easily could finish in fifth if they throw up another stinker.  9-7 = ok in this conference.  8-8 is not good.  The bottom of this conference is always very bad.  You should get six wins without much effort, every  year.  So no big points from me for getting 8 or even 9.  

When they are not winning the team at times becomes unwatchable.  48 points.  52 points.  Yuck.  And what do we do?  Nothing.  No change on the offensive end of the floor.  Six or seven dribble hand offs all to get it back in the same guys hands w/ 10 on the shot clock???   This leads to fan frustration and in my opinion rightfully so.  

We've heard Coach Brown has overachieved given the arena.  Really?  Have you been to UVM?  

Big men?  Why can't we get a decent big man?  Do they not want to play in our offense?  Our bigs have been below average in a below average conference for years.  One of you actually called Stire a stud.  A stud?  Don't get me wrong I love how he played.  Max effort.  Tough.  Serviceable.  But when that's where we look to for a last big man we've got a problem.   Sam Rowley was our last dominant big man.  He graduated in 2015.  

A win tonight puts us in a better spot but with SB and UVM still on the schedule holding on to third will be tough.  

UA Men’s and Women’s Teams sweep America East Championships.  They did it in impressive fashion too.  Looks like both by around 50 points.  
 

Congratulations to Coach Vives, his staff, and the team.  

Can someone smarter than me explain the end of the first half?  
 

First w Hanks on the line shooting a 1 and 1 we have nobody rebounding?  Nobody?

Then with fouls to give we and 5 seconds left we let a guy into the lane to score?  Why didn’t we foul?

25 minutes ago, Bball2020 said:

Not defending them cause tonight they were awful, pretty sure healy, clark, desousa and rizzuto are all good recruits. Looking back david nichols, travis charles, stire and cremo were all studs recently. Especially healy, kind of comical were in third place in league and people are commenting we dont recruit talent lately? what is it then all luck!? That being said- what is UAs offensive identity? UA doesnt run much and when they do their forwards screen and almost force double teams on the guards. Would team be better with more forced ball movement and hate to say it but less threes

Did you call Stire a stud?  Solid role player at best.  6 points and 5.5 RB’s per game.  And, at least according to others, Cremo wasn’t really here because of recruiting.

We play with a 4 point lead like we’re ahead by 15.  I’ll never understand.   Clark bails us out on one possession and then a shot clock violation.  Please keep playing.

Wow.  Is there a mercy rule?

4 hours ago, Dane Pound said:

Didn't like the smaller lineup from the start. Rizzuto on Elliot and Hutch on Marks weren't good matchups at all. 

I thought Hansen and Lauderdale played hard and Lauderdale should have gotten more minutes. 

Lulka had a really solid freshman year and I had hopes for him but he drove me crazy in this game. 

Whoeverr recruited Stafl and Flowers for Hartford, in addition to getting the two grad transfers, should get a big raise.

Both teams had their PGs in foul trouble - Ahmad for us and Carter for Hartford. Hartford actually had a backup PG and that made the difference. Two point game when Ahamd picked up his forth foul. It was over when he went out of the game.

I thought Lauderdale earned some more time too.  Once Ahmad got his 4th I don’t think it would have mattered.

Clark can drive us all crazy but we don’t even have an option at PG after him.