Week 10 Rankings

[danefan]

AGS

 

 

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

 

(First place votes in parenthesis), Points

1. James Madison (90) 2585

2. Appalachian St. (13) 2499

3. Cal Poly 2320

4. Northern Iowa 2157

5. Montana 2073

6. Richmond 2002

7. Villanova 1989

8. Southern Illinois 1774

9. Weber St. (1) 1765

10. New Hampshire 1698

11. Wofford 1641

12. Elon 1515

13. Massachusetts 1350

14. William & Mary 1193

15. Furman 1062

16. Central Arkansas 823

17. Western Illinois 813

18. McNeese St. 744

19. South Carolina St. 668

20. Harvard 657

21. Tennessee-Martin 452

22. Maine 310

23. South Dakota St. 279

24. Colgate 230

25. Tennessee St. 210

Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Northern Arizona (53), Georgia Southern (37), Lafayette (36), Liberty (32), North Dakota St. (32), Jacksonville St. (18), Northwestern St. (15), Albany (5), Brown (5), Eastern Kentucky (5), Prairie View A&M (5)

 

MOST SIGNIFICANT WIN OF THE WEEK: Appalachian St.

MOST SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF THE WEEK: Wofford

 

The Sports Network

 

1. James Madison Dukes (91) 8-1 2,707 1

2. Appalachian State Mountaineers (17) 7-2 2,617 2

3. Cal Poly Mustangs (1) 6-1 2,373 4

4. Northern Iowa Panthers 7-2 2,296 5

5. Montana Grizzlies 8-1 2,233 6

6. Villanova Wildcats 6-2 2,110 7

7. Richmond Spiders 6-3 1,984 8

8. New Hampshire Wildcats 7-1 1,874 9

9. Weber State Wildcats 8-2 1,767 13

10. Wofford Terriers 6-2 1,747 3

11. Elon Phoenix 7-2 1,690 10

12. Southern Illinois Salukis 6-2 1,650 14

13. Massachusetts Minutemen 6-3 1,262 15

14. William & Mary Tribe 6-2 1,202 16

15. Furman Paladins 7-3 1,081 18

16. Central Arkansas Bears 7-2 887 11

17. Western Illinois Leathernecks 5-3 824 12

18. McNeese State Cowboys 5-3 789 20

19. South Carolina State Bulldogs 7-2 750 22

20. Tennessee-Martin Skyhawks 7-2 527 24

21. Harvard Crimson 6-1 463 23

22. Tennessee State Tigers 7-2 425 25

23. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 6-3 395 19

24. Colgate Raiders 7-2 207 NR

25. Liberty Flames 7-2 195 17

 

Others receiving votes: Maine 181, South Dakota State 136, Northwestern State 114, North Dakota State 97, Jacksonville State 95, Lafayette 89, Georgia Southern 81, Prairie View 78, Eastern Kentucky 63, Grambling 54, Holy Cross 41, Morgan State 34, UC Davis 26, Albany 25, Brown 14, Hampton 13, Sacred Heart 12, Dayton 10, Texas State 9, Florida A&M 7, San Diego 6, Nicholls State 5, Montana State 4, Monmouth 2, Penn 2, Jacksonville 1.

 

Coaches Poll

 

Team (1st Votes) Record Points Previous Ranking

 

1. James Madison (28) 8-1 700 1

2. Appalachian State 7-2 669 2

3. Cal Poly 6-1 635 3

4. Northern Iowa 7-2 611 4

5. Montana 8-1 585 6

6. Richmond 6-3 548 7

7. New Hampshire 7-1 513 8

8. Villanova 6-2 482 10

9. Southern Illinois 6-2 455 11

10. Weber State 8-2 433 13

11. Elon 7-2 411 12

12. Wofford 6-2 396 5

13. Massachusetts 6-3 378 15

14. Central Arkansas 7-2 300 9

15. McNeese State 5-3 283 16

16. William and Mary 6-2 267 19

17. Furman 7-3 243 21

18. South Carolina State 7-2 206 20

19. Western Illinois 5-3 191 14

20. Tennessee Martin 7-2 137 23

21. Harvard 6-1 97 T24

22. Tennessee State 7-2 90 NR

23. North Dakota State 5-4 84 T24

24. Northern Arizona 6-3 70 18

25. Liberty 7-2 60 17

 

Other receiving votes (pts. in parentheses): Colgate (47), Jacksonville State (38), Grambling State (31), Prairie View A&M (27), Maine (24), Georgia Southern (20), Lafayette (14), South Dakota State (12), Dayton (11), Brown (9), Holy Cross (7), Hampton (5), Morgan State (4), UC Davis (3), Northwestern State (3), Albany (1).

[UA_MA_2000]

Looking at these rankings, I had the following thoughts:

 

First, I apologize in advance for what may be viewed as a "dumb question," but if we had full scholarships and a new stadium of some sort (along with the new building to go along with it for study areas and locker rooms/offices, etc., it seems like that alone would account for us vaulting into the top 20 or even top 10 on a regular basis? Is the effect of full scholarships and a new stadium not to be underestimated, or am I over-valuing their potential significance?

 

It seems to me that given with "what we're working with now" in terms of funding and current stadium, our program does an amazing job! Thoughts?

[danefan]

Looking at these rankings, I had the following thoughts:

 

First, I apologize in advance for what may be viewed as a "dumb question," but if we had full scholarships and a new stadium of some sort (along with the new building to go along with it for study areas and locker rooms/offices, etc., it seems like that alone would account for us vaulting into the top 20 or even top 10 on a regular basis? Is the effect of full scholarships and a new stadium not to be underestimated, or am I over-valuing their potential significance?

 

It seems to me that given with "what we're working with now" in terms of funding and current stadium, our program does an amazing job! Thoughts?

 

There is a bias towards the major FCS conferences, but that is because they continuously win big out of conference games and games against FBS teams.

 

Because there is little national TV converage of FCS games, most voters are voting purely on record and name recognition. We don't have either. Our OOC has helped us win NEC titles and gain the respect of the fans from teams we have played (mostly CAA teams), but continuously losing these games (even if close) is what hurts the ranking.

 

Had we scheduled 2 PL teams this year and won in place of two CAA teams we would likely be a top 15 team with an 8-1 record and wins over, let say Fordham, Bucknell and Hofstra, with a loss to either UNH or UMass.

 

So, in response to your question, scholarships and facilities have a direct effect on the rankings, because they make your team a better team.

 

 

But yes, given what Ford has to work with, the results are amazing. There are plenty of programs who have many more resources then Albany and they aren't nearly as successful.

[UAalum72]

Stadium and scholarships only if combined with a new league that would extend our OOC strength of schedule to the entire year. That and continuing to win 8 games per year.

[danefan]

Week 10 GPI:

 

11/3/2008 GPI Top 25

1. James Madison (1.00)

2. Appalachian St (2.13)

3. Montana (3.88)

4T. Cal Poly (5.25)

4T. Richmond (5.25)

6. Villanova (5.50)

7. Weber St (7.00)

8. Northern Iowa (8.38)

9. New Hampshire (9.38)

10. Wofford (9.50)

11. Massachusetts (11.50)

12. William & Mary (11.75)

13. Elon (12.00)

14. S Illinois (13.75)

15. Furman (15.00)

16. Cent Arkansas (18.38)

17. Maine (18.50)

18. W Illinois (19.00)

19. Harvard (20.00)

20. McNeese St (20.25)

21. N Arizona (21.00)

22. Ga Southern (21.50)

23. UC Davis (25.00)

24. S Dakota St (25.25)

25. Delaware (27.00)

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42T. Albany (36.13)

 

Conference Ranking:

Rank, League, Total Average

1. Colonial Athletic Association (22.07)

2. Southern Conference (27.96)

3. Big Sky Conference (31.23)

4. Southland Conference (32.30)

5. Great West Football Conference (32.63)

6. Missouri Valley Football Conference (36.93)

7. Ivy League (48.72)

8. Patriot League (48.99)

9. Big South Conference (49.86)

10. Ohio Valley Conference (50.96)

11. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (61.53)

12. Northeast Conference (66.32)

13. Southwestern Athletic Conference (70.80)

14. Pioneer Football League (75.14)

15. Independents (78.65)

 

12. Northeast Conference (66.32)

42T. Albany (36.13)

80. Monmouth (59.13)

81. Sacred Heart (59.38)

84. Central Conn (63.00)

95. Robert Morris (69.50)

104. Duquesne (74.63)

116. Wagner (82.13)

123. St Francis PA (86.63)

 

 

Amazing how Delaware is 25. They have spiraled out of control after our game. That loss will haunt Fordie for a few years.