AlbanyFan2018

You forgot the middle school dodge through three guys, and turnover. Hogg's hustle might have won them the game.

The lack of accountability is maddening. Same mistakes over, and over. The same dumb penalties killed our momentum.

Can't explain the inconsistency other than coaching and preparation. I think the team is young on the fringes, but the main guys are not. Attack Patterson, grad student, Yunker, Jr. Hogg Sophomore. Most of the middies other than Salit and Tucker are on the older side with John and Goldsmith, 5th years, Burgmaster a senior. The defense is not young, and we have a grad student as the goalie. I'm not trying to split hairs with you, but I think the issues are much more than this being a young team. Completely agree with you about the lack of leadership on offense, and I think some of that was the revolving door of trying to figure out which pieces work best together. I have never understood the idea that Patterson could be that alpha attack guy with the ball in his stick. I don't know how Marr saw that, and Patterson always seemed to better on the move and having someone feed him. I'm willing to cut them a bit of slack with the Tehoka situation, but they probably should have made a more decisive decision sooner, and I don't know what happened at this point that caused the staff to act, but clearly Tehoka not being on the team was going to have an impact because he had the ball so much in his stick. I have felt this for a while, and have said that with the loss of that last great class as well as some key coaches was a big hit, and it has just seemed that since then there has been a helter skelter aspect to this team.

https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/UAlbany-men-s-lacrosse-closes-regular-season-with-16137232.php?utm_campaign=CMS Sharing Tools (Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral Most everyone has been saying what Coach said in the article about the mistakes, turnovers, defense standing around, etc. I love Coach Marr, but it seems without a legit star player who can lift up the guys around him they can't get it done. I am just tired of the excuses.

No insights, but my guess is that while Coach Marr would have good things to say about Tehoka to potential GM's and coaches, getting dismissed from the team certainly didn't do him any favors. Why draft a guy where as the superstar player he was still asked to leave the program? and there were other issues prior to his eventual dismissal. Honestly, I don't think he made the players around him better.

The coach speak is getting old, especially when it is the same mistakes over, and over.

That pretty much summed it up. I don't know if it has been injuries or not, but different guys back in the rotation. I am sure there are some growing pains in the post Tehoka era, but the most glaring issue is the team doesn't really have someone who can initiate the offense. Despite Coach Marr trying to put that label on Patterson it is pretty clear against top tier talent that isn't his skill set, and the offense bogged down. Hogg and McComber have more wiggle in their dodges, but McComber in particular sees significant time, disappear, and then reappears. While the face off wasn't horribly one sided we got killed on ground balls.

Starts and stops with coaching, player development, and how complementary players are put on the field. Team defense has been lacking for a while now. How many times are we going to hear we were not ready coming off of the bus, bad slides, no slides, ball watching, guys watching on offense. The Stony Brook announcers did a good job of calling the game and highlighting all of that.

Don't get me started.

https://dailygazette.com/2021/03/19/ualbany-mens-lacrosse-looking-to-shake-off-vermont-loss/ Interesting comments - we are heading into the fourth game and hearing younger guys will see more playing time. Honestly, I have pretty much seen the same positives and negatives in the first three games. The only big difference was a quality opponent in Vermont.

I disagree on the this. Other than TD the team hasn't been hit really at all by the transfer portal, and TD's situation really had nothing to do with what is going on now,.

Even as a former parent I didn't know 1/4 of what was really going on, but the one thing that drove me and a lot of crazy, and still does today as a fan, is the reappearing act and disappearing act of players. Now there could be injuries we don't know about, academic stuff, maybe effort in practice, but there has been a common theme IMO the last several years which just seems odd, and not good for cohesion, and on the field chemistry.

I didn't drive over to stand behind the fence today, and at the start of the broadcast the announcers said Patterson was held out due to an injury, but don't believe they gave any specifics beyond that. If it were Covid related he wouldn't; have been at the stadium. I kind of think for the most part what we saw today is what we have seen the past several years - a lot of one on one offense that can be effective if the shots fall and they didn't; go in today. I had hoped that with the new rules the face off situation would improve, but the wings were not involved much at all. I haven't understood the plan post TD. I don't recall Altamari taking a draw today. There could be other injuries we don't know about. I for one didn't buy into the early defense hype. I still think this is a very deep and balanced team, but with so many players being close, and not a fall ball, and normal preseason I am sure it is tough finding the right mix across the board.

Completely agree with you, each team will develop its own identity. I'm just saying pump the breaks a bit when we anoint any team the second coming of the great Dane Train teams. We need to see those complementary stars develop and emerge, and I am sure Scott will tinker a bit with the lineups until he finds those players that play best play off the other guy's skills.

I'm not ready to reinstitute the Dane Train just yet. I was at the Colgate game and wasn't sure what to think with no real preseason, so many guys out, and Colgate is not very good. Since I no longer literally don't have a dog in the fight take this with a grain of salt, and I am very partial to the Dane Train years so take this nit picky analysis as a comparison to those teams. The one weakness compared to the Dane Train days is at midfield, except Ron John. There are no McClancy's or Osika's on this team, who can play both ways at a high level, especially big and fast enough on defense. That is the achilles heal on this team that will probably show up against someone like Syracuse or into the tournament against another top Big 10 or ACC team. Those two guys were very, very special players. IMO Scott needs to settle on an attack that has the best complimentary skills. I didn't love the Tehoka, Patterson, Hay line. Too many guys playing with their back to the goal trying to bull dodge all the time. We need someone out there who can breakdown a defense off the dodge instead of the endless bull dodges. That works against Hartford it won't against Cuse or anyone in the ACC. I think the 3rd attack should either be Hoog or Yunker, probably Hogg since he is a bit quicker. Ron John is great on that move he makes to the goal and scored twice today, but other than that you don't see anyone who can split dodge or make a fast alley dodge to get a defense spinning. I think Patterson coming out of the box is the play since he is such a threat shooting up top, and I'm not sure you can be a truly elite offense without an amazing X attack men. We have a load of talent, but not sure it is Dane Train equivalent when you had off ball Reh, Connor dodging, feeding and shooting, and Tehoka as the man child freshmen. That was a special combination of talents. Totally agree with the comment above about the revolving door at face-off and overall wing play. Other than the two TD years that has been a consistent issue. The very good thing about this defense is the length. I don't agree it is the most athletic, but it is definitely the best combination of size and athleticism Scott has ever had.The most athletic IMO was Dhluy, Simms, and Perla. No one on this team has the footwork of Stone Simms, but the length is a great advantage and they use it well. This is potentially the most balanced and deepest team that I can ever remember and should be a tournament team if they can win the tournament. I don't think the AE will get two bids.

I understand a home game has tentatively been added on the 27th.

All I can say is who cares. What a joke.

I talked with one of parents who still has a son playing and he told me that they are supposed to start practicing next week. I may have heard this wrong, so don't quote me on this, but I think one of the hold ups was the procedure of getting kids back on campus with the virus, testing, quarantining and what not.

No longer have great information flow, but I believe the team will be kicking things off in about two weeks. I haven't heard anything about the schedule.

Well the good news for lacrosse is that with Fallon having new turf, I would think minimum impact for the men and women. Could make for some tough parking if football is a go in the spring.

Not sure anyone else caught it or not, but a spot on the Fan about Coach Marr and Hopkins. It was an interview with Paul Carcaterra. No new news, other than Carc saying of course Marr is on the list, and it is probably a long one.

I would think the probability is pretty low as well, especially if his daughter takes the extra year. If Hopkins were to reach out, Coach Marr would have to take the call.

Petro and staff fired at Hopkins. Marr's name will undoubtedly come up in the conversation as a possible replacement.

I hope so as well for the program going forward. I know he has a lot to prove, and I hope it is in an Albany uniform and not a professional one.

As of right now I think no more than one or two seniors may come back. I agree with you that the NCAA policy while well intentioned was a mistake with too many unintended consequences. No idea on Tehoka, but it wouldn't shock me if he doesn't return. The Native players are very tight, and his best friends are moving on.