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Sorry guys. A quick read on the iPhone as I'm trying to get myself and my 6 month old out of the house for the day. I guess part of me expects this name change to happen sooner or later so I was triggered for the response.

This article in passing says Albany Nano Tech is the new name for the University at Albany College of Nanotechnology and Engineering. A very scary outcome dropping UA from the name. http://m.bizjournals.com/albany/morning_call/2013/01/albany-nanotech-charges-ahead-with.html?r=full

There is no news that I know of. This is just wishful thinking on my part. The Cornell proposal was just a creative solution to solve for the objections I've heard raised about why UAlbany would never get a law school or why UAlbany could never acquire Albany Law. Fine, we don't need either to achieve the stated goal of a public option/manageable debt levels. This idea is fairly simple, has some similarity to an existing well established model and really has no down side that I can think of. It largely leaves ALS 'as is' structurally and they can maintain their title of oldest law school and provides them with a deeper candidate pool. It provides benefits to UA in the form of a law school or some hybrid model of a law school. New York achieves the goal of turning out well educated lawyers without adding to the existing glut. From a business perspective it's basically UAlbany outsourcing a service in part to ALS. UAlbany hires some of its own law professors and provides some classes onsite at the main campus so UA doesn't completely push off responsibility but in large part its outsourcing. UA takes advantage of Albany Law's infrastructure (law school credentials, law professor base etc). The state picks up the tab for the tuition differential so ALS isn't out of pocket. No need for a new school per se, just a reformulation of the current process. You just need to figure out what the diploma says. University at Albany/Albany Law School? As I said too you don't need to do this for all ALS students either just some segement. Just like not every Cornell student is attending a SUNY college. Maybe you limit it by ability to pay or certain legal disciplines. What does the Cornell diploma say if you attend a SUNY college? Does it list both institutions?

If I were a betting man I would say 5 - 10 years from now SBU and BU will have law schools driven largely by strong leaders like the Senate Majority leader. UA will not have a law school. The primary reason for that outcome will be that the Capital District already has private Albany Law and they would scream bloody murder with a SUNY Albany Law and there is no leadership or creativity in the Capital District to find a successful path to driving down school loan debt and creating a public option in Albany. Not only will this be bad for UA but the new SBU and BU law schools will add more lawyers to the glut that New York already produces instead of improving the existing public/private mix. I will bet you a million dollars if the governor played hardball with his alma mater by saying to ALS, you find a public option with SUNY Albany that you can live with or I will create a new law school at SUNY Albany there would be a public option tomorrow. ALS does not want a law school at SUNY Albany under any circumstance. I understand Albany Law's motivation that and that's why the Cornell design makes the most sense. Albany Law only wins under this design. I agree though. It will not happen.

From your lips to god's ears. Lets hope your right.

Your probably right of it not happening. Change requires leaders. SBU and Buffalo have us beat. Who speaks for UA and the Capital District? .... There you go.

This Cornell inspired idea would leave those Albany Law professors as is. We would not convert them to state workers. They remain working for a private college. UAlbany would hire some of their own law professors who would be state employees like any SUNY professor. The student takes classes on the UA and ALS campuses via both professor populations. The nice thing about this design is everything stays as is with the exception of affordability and building a better more comprehensive UA and ALS. Some students (not all) enroll via UA take some classes on the UA campus and some on the ALS campus and graduate with a SUNY Albany Law School degree. The state makes ALS whole by picking up the tuition difference or negotiating a rate. Albany Law wins. The affordability attracts more and better students via competition. UA gets the law school. New York doesn't add more lawyers just more lawyers with manageable student loans. We basically do this now at Cornell and Alfred. The professors should have no complaints after its explained.

I emailed the article's author and asked why a UAlbany/Albany law merger, acquisition or other creative but more formal arrangement beyond what already exists never came up in the article. New York has 1 SUNY Law School. New York has 30+ private law schools. New York does not need more law schools but it does need affordable law schools. School loan repayment is the issue then why not convert or find some way to offer more state supported options? One option I floated again is a design similar to Cornell University. Cornell is private but it has state colleges. Why not allow some students (by income, area of study, etc) to enroll via UAlbany and take classes at both UAlbany and Albany Law? The student pays SUNY tuition and has affordable school loans so he makes out. Discounted SUNY/Albany Law tuition increases the law school applicant pool for Albany Law so they make out. UAlbany gets a law school and becomes a more complete comprhensive university so UAlbany makes out. The public makes out because affordable law education is as important to New York as any other form of education. I'm not talking about another joint degree program. I'm talking about UAlbany students taking classes at SUNY tuition on the Albany Law campus where the state picks up the tuition difference. We'll see what he says...

I emailed the previous Albany Law School Dean a year or two ago and asked why UAlbany and Albany Law don't merge or work out some more formal arrangement. We was a Midwesterner if I recall and of course looking at Ohio State, Michigan etc it made sense to him. He said it made sense but thought the politics was the challenge. Only in New York does it become a big challenge. I'd have to dig up that old email

Of course also ecstatic that Ford is coming back but I had already banked on that fact. 54 of 63 is 86% of full scholarship FCS. It's more than I expected in '13. We should easily add the last 9 in '14. Wonder what that means for a possible FBS game in '14?

Stop the guessing. Ford says 54 schollies next year. A very nice jump in year 1. http://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Ford-will-return-for-Great-Danes-4169002.php

My view was Cuomo went to bat to keep the Bills in Buffalo. It would have taken a tiny fraction of that investment to expand the bubble and keep the 'New York' in the New York Giants. Cuomo jumps through hoops for Western New York but the Capital District is an after thought.

Cuomo puts up NY tax dollars to keep the Bills but then watches the Giants walk out the door. Hopefully Cuomo will follow them to Jersey.

Back to being the New Jersey Giants. Take the 'NY' off the helmet. It's just not true.

The New York Times is yellow journalism crap. Omissions are as good as lies. NYT hack job. I hope they go bankrupt.

Has anyone looked at the details? What measure are we failing at? Cost of attendance per se doesn't concern me. What would concern me is a drop off of quality such as SAT scores, GPA etc. We'll see where the issue lies (or doesn't) when US News College Rankings come out because I don't believe cost is a consideration to them.

Thank you Brutus

At 15 feet deep then the concessions, stadium store and other interior space on the first floor must just be for the staff? Based on my experiences at other presumably larger stadiums, I assumed the stadium fans would be inside those spaces but the space is so narrow. It must be that you stand outside and place your order to the worker standing inside via a window. Until now I didn't realize how narrow and thus how small the interior spaces must be. Was it that much more to add another 10 feet in width? The other thing I questioned is whether fans would stay dry while ordering food, purchasing gifts etc. If the fans are indeed outside and placing an order via a window they may get drenched waiting in line. The center back wall is open to the elements and I'm not sure if the second tier of the stands over head is completely closed but I would think rain could come in via the large center wall opening and from the stands above. If that is the case, they should consider sealing those off so there is somewhere dry to stand in the event of a down pour. Maybe that's just the dad in me but I like a covered area in the event of a down pour.

Quick question. I can't find this in the design plans posted earlier in the year but how wide is the actual structure? This thing looks incredibly narrow. Is this building 10 feet wide or something? I understand there is a bump out sitting area near the luxury boxes (the upper level) but even the bump out is minor. I can't understand the dimensions here. Any insights?

Very exciting! I may fly back for a game if I can get my schedule straight. I know next year will be tough so I would have liked to have Stony Brook at home this year. Other than that I'm quite happy with the schedule. I presume our OOC games will be scheduled with easier to beat teams to increase our chances at a winning record? Probably won't see an FBS opponent until 2015?

That is very cool to see our name on a CAA schedule as an in conference game. Even the websites of our new CAA competitors seem much more polished.

Thought this deserved it's own thread. http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1445315-ncaa-basketball-rankings-2012-mid-major-top-25-for-week-7/page/6

Up to 21 http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1445315-ncaa-basketball-rankings-2012-mid-major-top-25-for-week-7/page/6

That is very good news. But I still question why the $150M biomedical plan was scrapped for this plan. Did Albany Med push back on us going into what may be perceived as their space? UA needs to push into Medicine and Law to be that "compehensive" university. It's got to happen sooner or later. From an athletics peerspective, that's another 1,350 more students, possible fans and folks that will be kicking in on athletics fees.

I would love a CAA all sports invite but not with that huge exit fee. FBS should be a midterm goal and that exit fee is a problem.