Nanocollege to split from UAlbany ?

[UA_MA_2000]

T-U also has a joint statement of Jones and Kaloyeros

 

This joint statement reveals no benefit to UAlbany. Just rhetoric.

[Clickclack]

The letter written by Pres. Jones to the board...

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/154313756/07-15-McCall-Zimpher-Letter-2-2

[danefan]

That's putting it out on the table. I'm not sure I fully understand all the implications of these requests, but I know this:

 

1. More land is essential - Dr. Jones demanded it

2. Better professional degree offerigns are essential - Dr. Jones demanded it and the flexibility to do so could add law and medical even though he doesn't specifically say that.

3. Non-compete agreement with Nano (e.g., no competitive degree offerings) are essential - he demanded it

 

I don't understand the research foundation allocation, but it sounds like we've been getting hosed for a long time.

Edited July 17, 2013 by danefan

[alum73]

There are different indirect cost rates for research vs. training grants and contracts. Obviously, research facilities are more costly and have more overhead so they recover more costs. If RNA grows as hoped this will increase IC cost recovery.

[danefan]

There are different indirect cost rates for research vs. training grants and contracts. Obviously, research facilities are more costly and have more overhead so they recover more costs. If RNA grows as hoped this will increase IC cost recovery.

 

Cost allocation is not done based on actual cost then? It is a formulaic approach with standardized rates regardless of actual cost?

[alum73]

There are federally approved ind. cost rates, which are used for recovery. You submit proposals and they are negotiated.

[DanesRGood]

Does the part about the Memorandum of Understanding mean UA will charge CSNE for supporting their campus? Does that include dorms for the CSNE students, food, facilities usage on UA campus, etc.. or are they going to create their own across the street?

[danefan]

Does the part about the Memorandum of Understanding mean UA will charge CSNE for supporting their campus? Does that include dorms for the CSNE students, food, facilities usage on UA campus, etc.. or are they going to create their own across the street?

 

 

CNSE pays now and that appears to be contemplated as a continued relationship.

[DanesRGood]

Does the part about the Memorandum of Understanding mean UA will charge CSNE for supporting their campus? Does that include dorms for the CSNE students, food, facilities usage on UA campus, etc.. or are they going to create their own across the street?

 

 

CNSE pays now and that appears to be contemplated as a continued relationship.

 

Seems from the letter Jones wants that to be revisited and hopefully increased.

[UAalum72]

A T-U intern who is a UAlbany student writes an opinion piece

How to make breaking up easier to do

[DanesRGood]

Another question. From the article: "To this day, the University at Albany Foundation remains equal founding partners with the SUNY Research Foundation in the nonprofit Fuller Road Management Co., which owns the sprawling complex."

 

Does this mean that if they go out on their own they will buy out the UA Foundation for the property and buildings that are on the CSNE campus?

[UAalum72]

How many students does CNSE have? If they separate does UA's enrollment count take a hit, unable to grow because CNSE is using our dorms?

[UAalum72]

An uneasy academic divorce Times-Union editorial today. Brings up many of the points found in this thread, but too late?

[Michigan_Dane]

Good article.

 

The split will happen but the key is the terms. Does UA get fair compensation and treatment for losing such a huge asset or will they get the shaft? Articles like this shine a light on the loss and hopefully set UA for a fair deal (compensation, land and a new college)

[UA_MA_2000]

If the split is already going to happen then we have no leverage to seek favorable terms or any terms at all for that matter. The worst is yet to come.