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It's on....was looking forward to it....until they knelt for the Anthem.....off it went. Bye bye PLL. I'm sticking to my beliefs on this. 

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2 hours ago, jimbo said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/07/23/major-league-lacrosse-has-just-four-african-american-players-theyre-taking-stand/

 

Here is a proper protest IMHO. Calls attention, but is respectful and effective. 

Life is about choices, I am taking a knee when it comes to playing the National Athem.

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1 hour ago, cwdickens said:

Life is about choices, I am taking a knee when it comes to playing the National Athem.

Why?

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1 hour ago, jimbo said:

Why?

How is taking a "Knee" any different then standing up?.... both are expressions ... the "Taking the Knee" is an expression of concern ... when "Taking a Knee" first occurred a few years ago in the NFL,  this expression DID NOT offend me... I felt there was and is a deep meaning behind it ... The outrage that occurred at that time DID offend me...  Jimbo... you and I are older .... how did we get so far apart on this issue?

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I never post anything like this but this is awesome . This is now the world we live in. It's worth the 10 minutes. 

Its someone's choice to kneel and it's my choice not to support them. 

 

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1 hour ago, UA1882 said:

I never post anything like this but this is awesome . This is now the world we live in. It's worth the 10 minutes. 

Its someone's choice to kneel and it's my choice not to support them. 

 

I can respect your choice not to support those who decide to take a knee or take a position on an issue that contradicts your beliefs or stance.  Can you respect someone that has a different belief?  

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6 minutes ago, cwdickens said:

I can respect your choice not to support those who decide to take a knee or take a position on an issue that contradicts your beliefs or stance.  Can you respect someone that has a different belief?  

Not turning this political but the answer is : It depends. If its someone's belief that killing 50 innocent people is right, then I dont respect that of course. 

So yes I can however I believe this is the greatest country in the world and the national anthem represents our country. I believe strongly in that.  I personally take a knee for god only. So I will repeat what I said. Someone has the absolute right to do something, and I have the the absolute right to not support it! 

It's always funny to me when people say that they are ok with people doing something but are not ok if someone opposes it. Freedom of expression goes both ways whether people like it or not. See above video. 

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Thank you for your response.  While I find you response somewhat over the top, I respect your right to say it.

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By the way of getting on topic, yesterday's score Whipsnakes 12 Chaos 6

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10 hours ago, cwdickens said:

How is taking a "Knee" any different then standing up?.... both are expressions ... the "Taking the Knee" is an expression of concern ... when "Taking a Knee" first occurred a few years ago in the NFL,  this expression DID NOT offend me... I felt there was and is a deep meaning behind it ... The outrage that occurred at that time DID offend me...  Jimbo... you and I are older .... how did we get so far apart on this issue?

This isn’t difficult CW....the announcer says to the crowd “please stand to honor America for the playing of our national anthem, performed today by (fill in the blank). You remove your hat, put your hand over your heart and face the flag. You take a knee....you dishonor America and disgrace yourself. It’s black and white to me and not in a racial sense. How did we get so far apart? You need to look deep inside yourself for that answer. I know where I stand. 

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7 hours ago, cwdickens said:

By the way of getting on topic, yesterday's score Whipsnakes 12 Chaos 6

If there was a way for both teams to lose, that would have been my preferred outcome. I’ll never tune in one of their events again. 

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1 hour ago, jimbo said:

This isn’t difficult CW....the announcer says to the crowd “please stand to honor America for the playing of our national anthem, performed today by (fill in the blank). You remove your hat, put your hand over your heart and face the flag. You take a knee....you dishonor America and disgrace yourself. It’s black and white to me and not in a racial sense. How did we get so far apart? You need to look deep inside yourself for that answer. I know where I stand. 

You are entitled to your opinion; I am of the belief you do not dishonor "America" taking a knee...Disgrace yourself?   Shame on you for attempting to impose your values on everyone ... some of us cannot turn a blind eye to the fact that "America" has not honored all its citizens in the same manner not only in its past but this continues today... how is that for looking deep inside myself....have you done the same recently?

Perhaps you have a problem with America East's efforts: 

Introducing our newest #spreadrespect logo!

We are committed to promoting social justice and ending racial inequality as well as ensuring equality and safety for all student-athletes regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

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10 hours ago, cwdickens said:

We are committed to promoting social justice and ending racial inequality as well as ensuring equality and safety for all student-athletes regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

The whole thing is a bit hypocritical Dickens.

When Tebow was taking a knee for God, many people mocked him. Now, it's totally okay. If you DON'T take a knee, you get mocked or questioned as to why or ridiculed for it (see Jonathan Isaac from the Orlando Magic - people actually cheered when he got hurt and said stuff about Karma).
 

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"Shame on you for attempting to impose your values on everyone."

Seriously? Are you blind? That is literally the lefts modus operandi. On EVERYTHING.

Don't support LGBT? DOWN WITH YE! (for the record, I treat every person with respect, thank you very much. Don't need a preachy ad campaign to teach me what my parents already did.)
Don't support BLM? DOWN WITH YE! (for the record, I think the Breonna Taylor thing is absolutely wrong but I find it  hard to feel sympathetic in the Floyd situation)
Disobey government order (not law) to stay closed during a pandemic? DOWN WITH YE!
Support 2A? DOWN WITH YE!
Don't support communism-lite (socialism)? DOWN WITH YE!
Hell, some of the left is even starting to say that pedophilia is a normal thing and trying to get that value imposed on others.

Supporting or not supporting a business has been a thing for decades but only recently within this past decade did the left actually make it something far bigger where now it has a name (cancel culture).

So who's forcing people to bow to their values? Certainly not the right these days. The left is imposing not only their values but their view of history on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING (removing statues, burning things, etc.).

You've GOT to be kidding me with this post.

I've been trying to stay out of the political posts on here as I'm getting tired of it on FB, Twitter and now here. I just want to go back to a time where this garbage and filth didn't exist. But your post? Absolutely ridiculous.

I may have to log out of BPF and remove the favorite for another 6 months (so I'm not tempted to log in) like I did when HOF pissed me off. This place sometimes just pisses me right off when I read BS like this from Americans like you who have NO CLUE what they are asking for or where they will end up if they continue down this path.

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17 minutes ago, Eli said:

 


Hell, some of the left is even starting to say that pedophilia is a normal thing and trying to get that value imposed on others.

Supporting or not supporting a business has been a thing for decades but only recently within this past decade did the left actually make it something far bigger where now it has a name (cancel culture).

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WHAT IN THE HOLY HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE? NORMALIZING PEDOPHILIA? Have you been reading Qanon boards again? Please please please post me an article from a news source talking about this...

 

And cancel culture goes both ways, brother.  Go look up One Million Moms.

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