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Sooooooooooo SB decided to hard core celebrate the win in the visitor locker room. This got me back to the anger level and then some after the calls they were getting/not getting (backcourt).

 

I need a baseball break from UA sports until CAA media day.

Looks staged to me

Still have a women's team to root for

You can never blame the refs for a loss, but I can blame them for my horse voice. Absolutely horrendous.

No way attendance was that low. The sections held for SBU fans were pretty empty, but the rest of the arena was packed and very loud.

 

Even though it was a $ienaty loss, and I'm not ready to comment on it, I thought the crowd was great tonight.

 

Something is really wonky with how they are reporting attendance this season.

No idea where to post this. Didn't want to start a new thread on $iena but this spot works as it is recruiting related...

 

https://twitter.com/MarkSingelais/status/969403682348589061?s=19

 

Talk about killing future recruiting offers. Just wow.

Agree with reeder on the Northeast culture. Whether because there are so many small colleges splitting the market, or something else.

 

Perspective: this year we're currently ranked 169 in attendance - slightly behind Bing by 100, SBU by 200, UVM by 300, but ahead of 180 other schools. This year's attendance of 2542 with two games to go is almost the same as last year except for no bump from Siena at home this year. And this chart shows that winning does have an effect, but it's not permanent, Actually this year's count is almost exactly the same as 2005-06, our first championship season.

 

I like this graphic. I think it shows an upward trend with the good years being better and the down years not being as bad. I think it also shows that winning has a big effect the following year.

 

That up year in 15 should be the teams goal for down year attendance though. The area has the population and the income to support it. The school just needs to figure out how to make it happen.

I posted this on the AE board...

 

Nichols definitely had a down year, but when you look at his stats he probably deserved second team, at the very least 3rd team. Definitely a snub...

 

These 2 stat lines dont look all that different:

 

Player 1: 14.8 ppg 4.2 rpg 3.4 apg 1.1 stealpg 0.2 blockspg

 

Player 2: 14.9ppg 4.3 rpg 3.9 apg 1.1 stealpg 0.1 blockpg

 

Yes player 2 was pretty much better across the board, but they are all within range range of one good game changing the leader. Both play the same position.

 

Player 2 was the CPOY, and player 1 wasn't even on the 3rd team?

The co-coach of the year is obviously an attempt to save Gallaghers job.

 

Normally I would agree with this statement, but how can you not praise him with the season they had vs. expectations. Some people predicted them #9 in the conference.

 

What the ncaa did to help Denver is just short of a crime. Basically stole a coach and a recruiting class or two from Princeton {Princeton has never been the same since.} Helped Denver with travel and scheduling. I am not sure who else Hof is referring to in the ncaa's quest to expand lacrosse westward, but I am not surprised. I am pretty sure Albany never got any of this DI help growth. But I can tell you one eastern school who has and continues to get ncaa help. hopkins is "grandfathered" against the rule that requires schools to play D1 sports in ALL sports that they choose to offer. The rule was initiated so a school would NOT have a competitive advantage by spending all their resources on one sport, thus building a power house. When the rule was put in place (I forgot what year) schools with mixed levels of D1, D11,D111 were given x # of years to comply all teams to one level. When x years past hopkins led a fight (along with a number of hockey schools RPI & I believe Denver [who did ultimately raise all it teams.] to have the grandfather clause made permanent. What I believed happened it was agreed to extend the clause and review again in y years. Since most teams did eventually comply with the ALL D1 or nothing rule, the ncaa seems to have never reopened the "grandfather" issue, allowing a small # of teams {something like 5 or 6 teams total [mostly in hockey} to continue to compete in a single D1 sport. hopkins being the only lacrosse school still D1 only. Besides allowing them to spend ALL/most of their athletic resources on ONE sport, Title IX issues were also circumvented in allowing this grandfather clause to exist in perpetuity. I may have some of my facts wrong, but I assure you the basics of this rant are true.

 

ps. I am pretty sure academics had nothing to do with Marr's son going to hopkins.

 

 

That is what I was referring too. Schools getting help avoiding the title 9 rules by not having to have all sports at the same level as is a requirement. Outrageous. It helps Union College and RPI locally. Hey if you want to continue to play with the big boys do so. If not then don't!! Totally not equitable. Helps them spend a lot more money on that one sport. Hopkins on Lacrosse is a perfect example!!!

 

 

Growing up in upstate NY - I believe both Clarkson and St. Lawrence got waivers as well. Both are high level D1 Hockey programs and D3 for all other sports.

 

 

 

 

Professors stand in front of the classroom at UA and say "nope. I can't teach you that." "gotta skip this lesson" "you'd have to go to Harvard if you wanted to learn this"

 

Academically, a student will learn and get from a university what they work at getting out of the school. The difference academically stems from the quality of student, making more advanced classes more demanded and thus offered, and reputation. Syracuse isn't better academically than UA, but because it is a nationally known name it's degrees might be worth more.

 

Yale might not teach you more things, but because it has a history of higher quality students, it's academic reputation is better.

 

 

 

"Professors stand in front of the classroom at UA and say "nope. I can't teach you that." "gotta skip this lesson" "you'd have to go to Harvard if you wanted to learn this" Really - Got a couple undergraduate degrees and 149 Graduate hours at Albany - NEVER hear a professor say anything even resembling that type of comment!! Sorry. If that is true then they need to go and be replaced by someone else.

 

High quality students - mostly "Liberal" arts students - High quality is translated by some as Wealthy who can afford to pay - or a few 100 given scholarships each year because they score really high on the SAT's so they can keep their rep alive. The SAT's are a joke today compared to 40-50 years ago, just sayin' .

 

 

If you didn't catch it, my post was humor.

 

I was saying that the academics at each university is the same for the student that works for it. There is no "I can't teach you that". The difference is the percentage of high achieving students that attend a school allowing that school to offer more advanced classes and research, along with the percentage of high achieving alumni that support the university and add value through hiring with alumni networks and donations improving the reputation of school.

 

The other side of it is the name recognition of school. I do not think Syracuse is superior to UA academically in anyway shape or form. That said, a recruiter from California might recognize the Syracuse name because of athletic success and thus give preference for an interview from a candidate from that school. I have shared a true story on this board multiple times on when I was looking for a new job back in 06 and the response my resume received before and after the UConn game that year.

 

The sad part is, in the capital district a $iena diploma is worth more than a UA one in the business community. Why? Because most UA kids go back to NYC or travel the country. $iena alum typically stay in the area. There are a surprising number of $iena alum in leadership positions in businesses all over the capital district that like to hire $iena kids. It sucks, but it is a fact. I live it every day in the business community. It's why I have a BEAT $IENA shirt hanging on my wall in my office. Acedmically $iena is $iena. My brother went there. UA kicks its @ss, but around here one is worth more than the other if you want a top job. Go to Atlanta and I bet 99 out of 100 have never heard of $iena.

 

 

 

Sorry I missed the humor. WiIl try to get it next time. My bad.

 

 

It is actually a quote from a comedian. I want to say it was George Carlin, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Very funny statement about a teacher standing in front of the class reading from a book, and having to stop because he can't teach you that. You would have to go to Harvard to learn that. I wish I could find the bit. I actually quote it a lot and it would probably be nice to remember where it came from. I guess had I gone to Yale or Hopkins instead of UA I would remember because of their "superior" academics. LOL

 

 

Professors stand in front of the classroom at UA and say "nope. I can't teach you that." "gotta skip this lesson" "you'd have to go to Harvard if you wanted to learn this"

 

Academically, a student will learn and get from a university what they work at getting out of the school. The difference academically stems from the quality of student, making more advanced classes more demanded and thus offered, and reputation. Syracuse isn't better academically than UA, but because it is a nationally known name it's degrees might be worth more.

 

Yale might not teach you more things, but because it has a history of higher quality students, it's academic reputation is better.

 

 

 

"Professors stand in front of the classroom at UA and say "nope. I can't teach you that." "gotta skip this lesson" "you'd have to go to Harvard if you wanted to learn this" Really - Got a couple undergraduate degrees and 149 Graduate hours at Albany - NEVER hear a professor say anything even resembling that type of comment!! Sorry. If that is true then they need to go and be replaced by someone else.

 

High quality students - mostly "Liberal" arts students - High quality is translated by some as Wealthy who can afford to pay - or a few 100 given scholarships each year because they score really high on the SAT's so they can keep their rep alive. The SAT's are a joke today compared to 40-50 years ago, just sayin' .

 

 

If you didn't catch it, my post was humor.

 

I was saying that the academics at each university is the same for the student that works for it. There is no "I can't teach you that". The difference is the percentage of high achieving students that attend a school allowing that school to offer more advanced classes and research, along with the percentage of high achieving alumni that support the university and add value through hiring with alumni networks and donations improving the reputation of school.

 

The other side of it is the name recognition of school. I do not think Syracuse is superior to UA academically in anyway shape or form. That said, a recruiter from California might recognize the Syracuse name because of athletic success and thus give preference for an interview from a candidate from that school. I have shared a true story on this board multiple times on when I was looking for a new job back in 06 and the response my resume received before and after the UConn game that year.

 

The sad part is, in the capital district a $iena diploma is worth more than a UA one in the business community. Why? Because most UA kids go back to NYC or travel the country. $iena alum typically stay in the area. There are a surprising number of $iena alum in leadership positions in businesses all over the capital district that like to hire $iena kids. It sucks, but it is a fact. I live it every day in the business community. It's why I have a BEAT $IENA shirt hanging on my wall in my office. Acedmically $iena is $iena. My brother went there. UA kicks its @ss, but around here one is worth more than the other if you want a top job. Go to Atlanta and I bet 99 out of 100 have never heard of $iena.

 

 

 

 

Now what to we do with it?

Get to a final four finally. Itll always be hard to compete with the blue bloods of lacrosse for recruits no matter what. Its simply the academic factor. Why would an outstanding lacrosse player pass up an eduacation at Duke or Notre Dame to play at Albany?

Disagree - Albany is an outstanding university, academically. Some areas of study competing nationally. I simply do not understand how or why UA graduates talk the University down! The old guard are snobby liberal institutes - does NOT mean they are all better academic colleges - reputation isn't necessarily based on fact, Except maybe in the liberal arts.

Albany is great, but if you think we compete with Notre Dame, Duke, UVA, Hopkins academically then more power to you.

 

If thats the case why isnt Marrs son at UA?

 

Professors stand in front of the classroom at UA and say "nope. I can't teach you that." "gotta skip this lesson" "you'd have to go to Harvard if you wanted to learn this"

 

Academically, a student will learn and get from a university what they work at getting out of the school. The difference academically stems from the quality of student, making more advanced classes more demanded and thus offered, and reputation. Syracuse isn't better academically than UA, but because it is a nationally known name it's degrees might be worth more.

 

Yale might not teach you more things, but because it has a history of higher quality students, it's academic reputation is better.

If I could like a comment from the mobile browser, I'd like DPs comment above.

No idea what happened. He might be taking it personally that Costa would start and he would sit instead of going small and moving Joe to the 3?

 

Who knows what goes on through his head. He is a great talent and I hope it's just emotions. Every now and then everyone needs some sense kicked into them. I know I do.

Most aggravating for me was Louisville. To lose by 2 when an 80% foul shooter is fouled on a 3 pointer at the buzzer with no call and the player on the other team admitting to the foul bugs the $iena out of me.

 

Clunkers happen (Bing), the team can fall apart and blow a big lead (UVM, UMBC), but to play well and have a real shot to beat a big time program taken away by a ref just blows.

SBU Women are #1 in LAX as well. Which poll came out first? I want to make sure we are the first ever!

 

What is crowd size

2076

Probably didn't look like a lot in the stadium, but that's a good crowd for a LAX game, in Albany, in February.

 

I'm just getting into Philadelphia from Miami, so I have no idea how the weather was. I hope that many show up for the basketball game tonight!

Also requires UML to beat UMBC today in Baltimore. I guess it doesn't matter if Hartford goes 1-1 or 2-0. I think we just need UMBC to lose the last 2 games: UML@home and @hartford

Still an outside shot at a 3, but we need to go 2-0, UMBC go 0-2, and Hartford to go 1-1

 

If my math is correct.

 

I think we own the tie breaker over UMBC in that scenario, but Hartford wins it over us if the 2 records are reversed because of the UVM win. (Hartford and UMBC play each other so both can't go 0-2)

Same discussion going on on the AE board.

 

Even 6K at $iena (paid, their fans say theyre getting 2 or 3 thousand noshows) is only one out of every 180 people in the CD. Either means a lot of untapped potential, or confirms that sports isnt that big a deal. Big crowds at Saratoga, 4K at the Joe, what else draws a big sports crowd?

 

Wouldnt. be surprised if the campus location, separate to itself on the city outskirts, keeps any non-alumni from identifying with the school as an integral part of Albany.

Lol. Interesting timing. With poor internet at sea, I haven't been on that board in a week.

Another thing to remember is a large majority of the population doesn't care about sports at all. Most of us sports fans think everyone is a sports fan. We are a minority.

I won't argue there, but there are enough sports fans to keep a variety of sporting good stores in business, average 6k to see $iena, tons that support and or play on local high school teams, ten's of thousands of local alumni, and 17k current students. The team should fill a 5000 seat arena at least a couple times a year (opening night, BPG, SBU, UVM, Senior Night, Playoff games) but hasn't had a single sell out all season. Probably not since the $iena game.

 

The capital district MSA has over 1.1 million people and is the 45th largest market in the country, with the 48th highest level of personal income per capita (second highest in the state after NYC).

 

By all accounts, this is an area that is prime for sports and entertainment attendance.

I'm sure pricing for tix and parking will be brought up, but I'll start that discussion with the theory that cutting those items in half wouldn't double the the attendance to make up lowered revenue and the revenue lost isn't palatable to growing the program and amenities. I still feel the pricing is reasonable and a great value.

There have been threads on this in the past, but I can't seem to find them from the mobile browser. With attendance seemingly down this season (I don't know of that's true as I haven't seen the numbers, and this is just from being at the games) I think it's time to start this discussion again.

 

I just got back into the country from a cruise (I was on the pier in Playa Del Carmen when the ferry exploded) and I won't be back in the 518 until after the game tomorrow, but I'm curious on everyone's thoughts on where to go from here...

 

I bring up the cruise, because I wore one of my great Danes t shirts on the boat one day, and while sitting in the sports bar watching a college game (Wisconsin vs. Northwestern) a guy started a conversation with me who's son will be a freshman next year from the Newburgh area. He was a college basketball fan, but his son isn't into sports, and will be a finance major. He didn't know that UA was D1, nor that they were any good. He had no idea that the LAX team was ranked #2, nor that the football team was FCS and has a guy named Vinny Testaverde on the roster next season.

 

How can we grow the fanbase, put butts in the seats, when a sports fan, with a kid attending next season, just over an hour away from Albany didn't even know the program was growing and having success?

 

This starts as a failure of marketing, and also speaks to the relatively new upgrade to D1.

 

Suggestions?

The star ratings are based on ratings from national recruiting sites, and I'm not sure he keeps it 100% up to date or had it linked to those other sites. It may only include rankings when the potential recruit gets added (JG3 has only recently blown up) or may only update once a year or something like that.

We are all victims of high expectation syndrome. If we came into the season thinking we were rebuilding and performed well, we would all be jumping for joy.

 

I've enjoyed the season so far, but I'll admit to wanting more.

 

I don't think we have a bad bench. I'm in the mindset now that it's the coaching fault for not developing them earlier. Brown has had a very quick hook and played the starters too many minutes in games that had no value if you are just planning for the conference tournament.

 

At this point in our development as a program we have several goals:

 

1. Play a rough OOC to make the conference season seem easy, while hopefully keeping a good record to enhance seeding if we win the conference tournament.

 

2. Play well in conference to get the best seed possible and get home games in the conference tournament.

 

3. Win the conference tournament to make it to the dance. We can go to other post season tournaments, but honestly the team has never seemed to "want it" in those other tournaments.

 

4. Use success in the above as leverage to get better recruits to make the above 3 easier in future seasons.

 

5. Get to a point with recruits where #1 becomes a given and we can eventually get to a spot where if #3 doesn't work out to dance we have a shot at an at large.

 

6. Have enough success where number 4 and 5 become easier and we can move to a better conference.

 

So far this season, we did well with #1, but it seems like #2 has failed.

 

Back to high expectations: how great must Hartford fans feel right now after what everyone expected from them?