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[MBB] Game #30: 2/24/18 - 7:00pm - vs Maine

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Last Up: L (68-60) @ UMBC
Next Up: vs Maine (6-22, 3-10 AE)
TV/Streaming: ESPN3
Local Radio: 104.5 FM
Another crappy loss in a game we should have won. This season will end with a resounding thud.
UAlbany Wins																																	
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																	
Opponent	Type	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Iona		OOC	69	67	24	26	62	59	38.7%	44.1%	4	4	15	22	26.7%	18.2%	17	11	19	14	89.5%	78.6%	47	27	6	14	1	6	0	3	13	7	16	21
Boston U	OOC	88	74	32	29	56	65	57.1%	44.6%	3	8	5	27	60.0%	29.6%	21	8	29	11	72.4%	72.7%	38	27	11	13	2	7	1	4	11	7	15	21
Yale		OOC	80	72	32	28	59	67	54.2%	41.8%	3	7	14	28	21.4%	25.0%	13	9	19	13	68.4%	69.2%	40	30	16	10	4	6	3	5	15	13	15	17
Oneonta		OOC	102	77	37	23	72	57	51.4%	40.4%	7	10	21	25	33.3%	40.0%	21	21	28	28	75.0%	75.0%	48	31	17	13	4	3	0	3	7	14	24	28
Dartmouth	OOC	91	73	34	27	64	49	53.1%	55.1%	8	8	17	17	47.1%	47.1%	15	11	16	12	93.8%	91.7%	28	25	13	11	8	5	0	7	12	20	13	19
Holy Cross	OOC	78	62	31	24	58	48	53.4%	50.0%	10	5	21	18	47.6%	27.8%	6	9	10	14	60.0%	64.3%	32	23	18	11	5	3	1	4	7	9	15	14
Colgate		OOC	75	69	25	25	59	55	42.4%	45.5%	6	8	18	22	33.3%	36.4%	19	11	23	16	82.6%	68.8%	39	24	14	9	7	7	1	1	11	9	15	20
Columbia	OOC	86	82	28	31	62	61	45.2%	50.8%	6	9	13	20	46.2%	45.0%	24	11	29	18	82.8%	61.1%	37	36	13	19	11	3	1	3	9	16	15	25
Bryant		OOC	84	68	33	24	61	61	54.1%	39.3%	9	11	17	26	52.9%	42.3%	9	9	13	16	69.2%	56.3%	40	27	21	21	2	10	2	4	14	9	14	16
Siena		OOC	74	69	26	24	55	50	47.3%	48.0%	5	9	15	20	33.3%	45.0%	17	12	25	17	68.0%	70.6%	30	27	11	10	8	5	1	3	12	16	15	22
Canisius	OOC	68	65	26	28	53	61	49.1%	45.9%	2	6	10	22	20.0%	27.3%	14	3	20	7	70.0%	42.9%	33	29	11	19	2	8	3	1	12	10	11	20
Kent State	OOC	78	68	23	28	46	68	50.0%	41.2%	7	3	18	20	38.9%	15.0%	25	9	32	13	78.1%	69.2%	32	35	20	13	4	4	4	2	11	11	18	25
Stony Brook	AE	78	65	29	25	55	60	52.7%	41.7%	6	10	9	20	66.7%	50.0%	14	5	17	8	82.4%	62.5%	37	28	20	17	2	5	8	5	11	9	11	18
Maine		AE	84	66	21	21	58	56	36.2%	37.5%	7	6	17	22	41.2%	27.3%	35	18	44	27	79.5%	66.7%	43	38	13	14	3	4	6	4	9	12	23	32
UMass-Lowell	AE	70	62	24	25	52	54	46.2%	46.3%	3	7	12	21	25.0%	33.3%	19	5	22	8	86.4%	62.5%	32	29	15	19	10	6	5	3	14	18	14	19
UMBC		AE	83	39	33	17	57	54	57.9%	31.5%	9	2	17	20	52.9%	10.0%	8	3	10	7	80.0%	42.9%	40	23	20	12	8	6	2	4	12	15	14	14
Stony Brook	AE	57	50	18	21	50	57	36.0%	36.8%	4	6	13	22	30.8%	27.3%	17	2	21	5	81.0%	40.0%	41	32	7	6	5	6	3	4	15	13	17	22
New Hampshire	AE	83	74	25	27	48	56	52.1%	48.2%	8	6	17	25	47.1%	24.0%	25	14	33	21	75.8%	66.7%	29	29	13	19	1	3	2	2	8	8	17	23
Hartford	AE	69	63	21	24	48	56	43.8%	42.9%	6	4	16	18	37.5%	22.2%	21	11	32	15	65.6%	73.3%	36	28	9	9	4	7	3	2	10	10	17	24
UMass-Lowell	AE	91	81	34	33	57	60	59.6%	55.0%	10	7	17	21	58.8%	33.3%	13	8	16	15	81.3%	53.3%	32	26	11	16	5	9	4	2	16	12	18	14
																																	
Tot. W		OOC	973	846	351	317	707	701	49.6%	45.2%	70	88	184	267	38.0%	33.0%	201	124	263	179	76.4%	69.3%	444	341	171	163	58	67	17	40	134	141	186	248
		AE	615	500	205	193	425	453	48.2%	42.6%	53	48	118	169	44.9%	28.4%	152	66	195	106	77.9%	62.3%	290	233	108	112	38	46	33	26	95	97	131	166
																																	
Avg. W		OOC	81.1	70.5	29.3	26.4	58.9	58.4	49.6%	45.2%	5.8	7.3	15.3	22.3	38.0%	33.0%	16.8	10.3	21.9	14.9	76.4%	69.3%	37.0	28.4	14.3	13.6	4.8	5.6	1.4	3.3	11.2	11.8	15.5	20.7
		AE	76.9	62.5	25.6	24.1	53.1	56.6	48.2%	42.6%	6.6	6.0	14.8	21.1	44.9%	28.4%	19.0	8.3	24.4	13.3	77.9%	62.3%	36.3	29.1	13.5	14.0	4.8	5.8	4.1	3.3	11.9	12.1	16.4	20.8
																																	
Tot. W			1588	1346	556	510	1132	1154	49.1%	44.2%	123	136	302	436	40.7%	31.2%	353	190	458	285	77.1%	66.7%	734	574	279	275	96	113	50	66	229	238	317	414
Avg. W			79.4	67.3	27.8	25.5	56.6	57.7	49.0%	44.3%	6.2	6.8	15.1	21.8	41.0%	31.3%	17.7	9.5	22.9	14.3	77.1%	64.4%	36.7	28.7	14.0	13.8	4.8	5.7	2.5	3.3	11.5	11.9	15.9	20.7
																																	
UAlbany Losses																																	
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																	
Opponent	Type	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Monmouth	OOC	73	81	26	28	54	56	48.1%	50.0%	3	8	11	18	27.3%	44.4%	18	17	28	24	64.3%	70.8%	41	29	5	12	2	7	3	4	15	8	23	24
Memphis		OOC	58	67	21	23	61	49	34.4%	46.9%	4	4	17	17	23.5%	23.5%	12	17	15	24	80.0%	70.8%	38	33	8	10	4	7	2	11	14	12	18	16
Louisville	OOC	68	70	27	24	74	57	36.5%	42.1%	6	9	20	21	30.0%	42.9%	8	13	12	21	66.7%	61.9%	52	37	9	11	2	4	2	10	10	7	19	19
Hartford	AE	64	72	23	25	54	50	42.6%	50.0%	8	9	19	18	42.1%	50.0%	10	13	14	13	71.4%	100.0%	28	30	14	15	7	8	3	9	12	14	16	18
New Hampshire	AE	61	64	20	25	49	62	40.8%	40.3%	4	10	14	24	28.6%	41.7%	17	4	27	6	63.0%	66.7%	34	41	10	13	4	4	2	0	10	10	16	22
Binghamton	AE	66	79	24	24	59	52	40.7%	46.2%	5	6	16	16	31.3%	37.5%	13	25	16	32	81.3%	78.1%	33	35	9	12	4	4	2	4	12	10	22	15
Vermont		AE	50	61	20	22	51	51	39.2%	43.1%	1	6	11	16	9.1%	37.5%	9	11	12	16	75.0%	68.8%	30	35	3	9	2	3	6	6	11	10	17	14
Vermont		AE	67	72	27	24	61	52	44.3%	46.2%	5	4	15	12	33.3%	33.3%	8	20	11	20	72.7%	100.0%	33	30	19	15	4	0	3	4	6	8	19	14
UMBC		AE	60	68	22	24	58	49	37.9%	49.0%	8	7	23	18	34.8%	38.9%	8	13	9	15	88.9%	86.7%	37	25	9	15	3	6	2	2	15	11	15	15
																																	
Tot. L		OOC	199	218	74	75	189	162	39.2%	46.3%	13	21	48	56	27.1%	37.5%	38	47	55	69	69.1%	68.1%	131	99	22	33	8	18	7	25	39	27	60	59
		AE	368	416	136	144	332	316	41.0%	45.6%	31	42	98	104	31.6%	40.4%	65	86	89	102	73.0%	84.3%	195	196	64	79	24	25	18	25	66	63	105	98
																																	
Avg. L		OOC	66.3	72.7	24.7	25.0	63.0	54.0	39.2%	46.3%	4.3	7.0	16.0	18.7	27.1%	37.5%	12.7	15.7	18.3	23.0	69.1%	68.1%	43.7	33.0	7.3	11.0	2.7	6.0	2.3	8.3	13.0	9.0	20.0	19.7
		AE	61.3	69.3	22.7	24.0	55.3	52.7	41.0%	45.6%	5.2	7.0	16.3	17.3	31.6%	40.4%	10.8	14.3	14.8	17.0	73.0%	84.3%	32.5	32.7	10.7	13.2	4.0	4.2	3.0	4.2	11.0	10.5	17.5	16.3
																																	
Tot. L			567	634	210	219	521	478	40.3%	45.8%	44	63	146	160	30.1%	39.4%	103	133	144	171	71.5%	77.8%	326	295	86	112	32	43	25	50	105	90	165	157
Avg. L			63.0	70.4	23.3	24.3	57.9	53.1	40.5%	46.0%	4.9	7.0	16.2	17.8	28.9%	38.9%	11.4	14.8	16.0	19.0	73.7%	78.2%	36.2	32.8	9.6	12.4	3.6	4.8	2.8	5.6	11.7	10.0	18.3	17.4
																																	
Tot. (all)		2155	1980	766	729	1653	1632	46.3%	44.7%	167	199	448	596	37.3%	33.4%	456	323	602	456	75.7%	70.8%	1060	869	365	387	128	156	75	116	334	328	482	571
Avg. (all)		74.3	68.3	26.4	25.1	57.0	56.3	46.4%	44.8%	5.8	6.9	15.4	20.6	37.3%	33.6%	15.7	11.1	20.8	15.7	76.0%	68.7%	36.6	30.0	12.6	13.3	4.4	5.4	2.6	4.0	11.5	11.3	16.6	19.7
			PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		RBG		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	

 

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A week off, two very weak opponents to close it out. Let's get these, try to get our head on right and make a run at this thing. I still think this team can beat anyone including Vermont but the problem is they can lose to anyone as well.

 

Honestly I'm a little fatigued as a fan with this group...very frustrating season. But let's keep going until we can't go no more and then evaluate in totality. There is nice (on paper) talent coming in or already here...I find myself looking and thinking about next year as this AE season has been a complete dud relative to expectations.

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A week off, two very weak opponents to close it out. Let's get these, try to get our head on right and make a run at this thing. I still think this team can beat anyone including Vermont but the problem is they can lose to anyone as well.

 

Honestly I'm a little fatigued as a fan with this group...very frustrating season. But let's keep going until we can't go no more and then evaluate in totality. There is nice (on paper) talent coming in or already here...I find myself looking and thinking about next year as this AE season has been a complete dud relative to expectations.

 

Agree! Plus in retrospect (which too soon we may have a lot of time to do); who would have thought that Cochrane, Clark,Anderson, Foster and yes even Campbell would be as bad/inconsistent/non existent as they ALL turned out to be. It probably was a mistake to redshirt all the Aussie's; but it looked like we were so deep???????

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I'm fatigued from a fan perspective as well. This season has definitely been unlike any others for me where I've missed multiple games, didn't hurry home to watch them on replay immediately after (I took a 4hr nap yesterday before I even though about watching the game lol)...the roller coaster has not been fun. As Click said, we can (probably) beat anyone...but we can (likely) lose to anyone. On any given day. That's the unfortunate truth.

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Just what the team needs. Last 2 games that mean nothing. Expect 2 lackadaisical performances then. Why should anything change.

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Just what the team needs. Last 2 games that mean nothing. Expect 2 lackadaisical performances then. Why should anything change.

 

 

I tend to agree with this point. I don't know if it helps this team more or less that the last two games mean nothing, against teams that aren't very good. Although we did let Bing punch us in the mouth earlier this year.

 

How do we handle the last two games? Let some of the bench guys get an abundance of minutes? See more from X and some extended minutes from Foster? Costa has been playing more lately so I would assume his minutes will stay the same. Someone posted in a different thread something about how they are surprised by Foster and he should be allowed to play through some of his mistakes. I can't understand how he doesn't dominate the game more when he is in there. Maybe this is the reason he went to a few different schools? Total inconsistency? He looks like he has the ability to run circles around a lot of these other bigs in the league and just doesn't.

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A week off, two very weak opponents to close it out. Let's get these, try to get our head on right and make a run at this thing. I still think this team can beat anyone including Vermont but the problem is they can lose to anyone as well.

 

Honestly I'm a little fatigued as a fan with this group...very frustrating season. But let's keep going until we can't go no more and then evaluate in totality. There is nice (on paper) talent coming in or already here...I find myself looking and thinking about next year as this AE season has been a complete dud relative to expectations.

 

Agree! Plus in retrospect (which too soon we may have a lot of time to do); who would have thought that Cochrane, Clark,Anderson, Foster and yes even Campbell would be as bad/inconsistent/non existent as they ALL turned out to be. It probably was a mistake to redshirt all the Aussie's; but it looked like we were so deep???????

 

I'm not sure how anyone blames the bench when Nichols and Cremo absolutely folded when UMBC, and actually, anyone else other than terrible Sienna put pressure on them. And, believe me, I'm not blaming these kids, I am pointing to the coach who, despite success, has never been able to get his players to handle pressure. NEVER. Sure, he has had individuals who could handle pressure, but it's never been because of a coaching regimen, imo.

Back to this game, hell, Campbell kept the best O player in the Aeast to what, 4 points through 30 + minutes. Campbell is a D beast and worth his weight in gold. But without help, Nichols and Cremo are no D help, no way he keeps Lyles down all game. It seems we have forgotten about the great inside dynamic we had with Foster, Stire, Charles early in the season. Foster is all but forgotten. AS for the bench, look at playing time in the preseason. Coach has his system, any system has faults, his system rewards his guys and punishes those who need the most time. We are paying for that now.

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I wouldn't think much is changing over these two games. You really don't even need much to change. Need to figure out and recognize when one of these four minute stretches that kill us are coming to minimize them and in the end the stars need to play like stars during the biggest moments. Sometimes a shot just doesn't go in, nothing wrong with that...there just cant be multiple possessions without a clean look or with a turnover.

 

Had a shot to win and controlled a lot of the game in almost every conference loss. I guess the issue is in every game whether it's been a loss or a win we've looked much better than the opponent for a stretch and much worse than the opponent for a stretch. Even with that you can look at almost every loss and point to two late shots that didn't drop that were the difference between losing and winning.

 

I don't really care about being good in the regular season (although I definitely thought this team would). All that matters is the postseason in this league and as a fanbase if we're sick of hearing that than we've been fortunate enough to experience enough AE tourney championships that we're spoiled and think we deserve more (right or wrong). I couldn't tell you the last 15 AE regular season champions, but I can easily tell you who danced every year.

 

This isn't to make excuses for the players or the staff, I've been pretty vocal with my disappointment this year. I'm a big fan of CB as a coach and I've been pretty vocal about that also. Pretty much at this point there's no reason for the fans or the team to act like they didn't reach their goal...the goal remains the same. Either we win the conference tournament or we don't. When the time comes that either of those two things happen we can revisit everything.

 

Win three games in the playoffs and nothing else that happened this season matters.

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Disagree. So we win the tournament this year and get a 16 or if lucky a 15 seed and then get smoked, all should be forgotten about the disappointing regular season? The difference between a 14/13/12 and a 16/15 is huge. I wont forget WB said after the Oklahoma game UA will win a game one day. You have to give yourself a better chance at that by taking care of business during the regular season. The idea that the regular season doesnt matter is the wrong approach for the team.

 

It was awesome 14 years ago just seeing UAs name on selection Sunday. I think we are passed that.

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Fans we have won as a 4 seed before. Yes I know we hosted back then, but I think the best thing to happen to this team will be to start a new season in the tournament.

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Fans we have won as a 4 seed before. Yes I know we hosted back then, but I think the best thing to happen to this team will be to start a new season in the tournament.

We have no choice, but to think its a new season. Weve absolutley done it before, but why put yourself in such a tough position to do it every year.

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Disagree. So we win the tournament this year and get a 16 or if lucky a 15 seed and then get smoked, all should be forgotten about the disappointing regular season? The difference between a 14/13/12 and a 16/15 is huge. I wont forget WB said after the Oklahoma game UA will win a game one day. You have to give yourself a better chance at that by taking care of business during the regular season. The idea that the regular season doesnt matter is the wrong approach for the team.

 

It was awesome 14 years ago just seeing UAs name on selection Sunday. I think we are passed that.

 

Agreed. See below. Didn't realize you posted this as I only noticed B9's post this morning...

 

Fans we have won as a 4 seed before. Yes I know we hosted back then, but I think the best thing to happen to this team will be to start a new season in the tournament.

I don't know. Might be rambling a bit here as this is a bit of a long post but my thoughts this AM...

 

TL;DR/Short version: I'm not content with bumbling through season after season even if we do win the title. It leads to nothing. We need successive years similar to what Vermont has done these past two. Winning titles with years like THAT is how you set yourself up for the CHANCE to make national noise. Winning 10 titles with a barely 20 win team and a seemingly yearly conference record of ~9-7 leads to nothing great. In my opinion.

 

At this point, winning the AE title is just good for those fuzzy feelings of superiority over the rest of the conference. Getting smoked in the NCAA's quickly destroys those fuzzy feelings, at least for me.

 

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I might be in the absolute minority (of 1) but I think winning the AE as a lower seed and not a #1 or #2 AND having a 'so-so' conference record is pointless. Sure, we get another banner. Cool. Bragging rights amongst AE teams. Cool. We could have 10 titles and also have 10 first round NCAA losses to go with them. At some point kids will say, "why go there? Even if we make it, due to being in the AE and always bumbling through the conference expecting to get hot in the tournamet, we'll be overmatched and lose in the first round".

 

At what point do we start caring about doing things to attain higher seeds in the dance than simply winning the AE at any cost? By that I mean develop the bench more during OOC so come conference time we aren't playing only 6-7 deep with a completely useless bench and thus losing games we're supposed to win when ONE of our main guys (there is 3 of them at this time) has a bad game. We can beat anyone...if all our guys are 'on'...we can lose to everyone...if one of our guys isn't on.

We need more years of 12-13 conference wins with a title in succession than winning titles with 9-7 conference records and as the #4, #5 seed.

 

Winning 3 titles with 12-13 conference wins in close succession will lead to better NCAA seeds than winning 5 titles with 9-7 conference records in close succession. IMO.

 

For an AE team to have a shot at a higher seed and thus a more likely chance at an upset, the team needs to win 24-25 games a year AND win the conference title as one of the top 2 seeds REGULARLY. Anything else happens (9-7 conference record), even with a title, and the selection committee will set us up to fail. Getting the #16 seed because we were the number #4 team in the AE is just ensuring we meet a buzzsaw in the first round.

 

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IMO, Vermont will win the AE title this year. They were the #13 last year. After going almost perfect in the AE again, I honestly think they can get a #12 or #13 again...pretty sure they won't be a #15 or #16 like we always seem to be and then promptly get shallacked by the Duke's and Kansas's of the world. No offense to Louisville, but they ain't that type of program anymore...at least not right now. That was a good game against them but we'd get blown out by a true #1/#2 team in the NCAA's.

 

Callin it how I see it. What's the point of gathering AE titles only to get obliterated later. This isn't our first AE title...we've been champions. Multiple times. Time to start aiming for bigger things. NCAA wins.

 

For that we need to put more pressure on winning 75% of our AE games AND the title. If we continue to only care about the 'new season in March'...we'll never get anywhere. With or without titles in that 'new season'.

 

Let's not Jimmy Patsos ourselves and try to sell ourselves on just performing in March.

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Disagree. So we win the tournament this year and get a 16 or if lucky a 15 seed and then get smoked, all should be forgotten about the disappointing regular season? The difference between a 14/13/12 and a 16/15 is huge. I wont forget WB said after the Oklahoma game UA will win a game one day. You have to give yourself a better chance at that by taking care of business during the regular season. The idea that the regular season doesnt matter is the wrong approach for the team.

 

It was awesome 14 years ago just seeing UAs name on selection Sunday. I think we are passed that.

 

Yeah I just don't think it's making a difference either way in this league. No matter who has come out with whatever record since these current teams are in the league there hasn't been a favorable matchup. If you can steal some OOC games then that makes all the difference.

 

I'd say I can agree with the disappointment of not being able to finish with at least 13 conference wins every season considering how we view the quality of most of the league. Its just not going to make a difference when it comes to making noise in the NCAA Tourney. You're always facing teams where you'll need to play your A game and they'll need to play a C- game at best for you to win.

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Not to mention I'm not sure when we've gotten "smoked" in the tourney (other than Virginia). We've had some crap matchups and they've played out just how our games would play out against any top 25 team. I'm down with being pissed off about losing to bad teams in the league. Thinking we should be winning tourney games or making tourney run's is Vermont fan level delusional. Only way you're winning one out of this league is by stealing a game from a damn good team. There's a reason people remember when low/mid's do it.

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