mbb 2023 Game #19: 1/20/24 - 7PM vs Bryant

[Eli]

Last Up: L (97-76) vs UMass-Lowell
Next Up: vs Bryant (11-7, 3-0 AE - 5-1 in their last 6)
Date: 1/20/24 @ 7PM
TV/Streaming: ESPN+
Local Radio: ESPN Radio 104.5 FM
ESPN Matchup Predictor: 51.5% chance of a UAlbany win

 

UAlbany Wins																																							
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																							
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FST BRK		PTS IN PNT		FOUL	
Columbia	OOC	Away	761	78	75	27	23	59	57	45.8%	40.4%	6	7	17	22	35.3%	31.8%	18	22	27	24	66.7%	91.7%	40	25	14	11	4	7	3	3	15	10	17	15	40	26	18	19
Army		OOC	Home	2011	62	59	22	22	53	62	41.5%	35.5%	7	4	21	18	33.3%	22.2%	11	11	14	17	78.6%	64.7%	31	31	8	7	5	7	4	3	11	7	6	7	28	34	17	10
Siena		OOC	Away	7605	86	51	36	20	70	61	51.4%	32.8%	6	3	19	14	31.6%	21.4%	8	8	9	13	88.9%	61.5%	45	33	14	9	12	6	1	3	12	18	26	1	60	24	18	9
Boston Univ.	OOC	Home	3103	86	72	25	25	55	65	45.5%	38.5%	14	4	32	14	43.8%	28.6%	22	18	37	26	59.5%	69.2%	36	42	15	9	9	6	4	4	10	13	12	6	20	38	22	25
Dartmouth	OOC	Home	2075	73	68	27	25	63	56	42.9%	44.6%	5	6	20	26	25.0%	23.1%	14	12	24	16	58.3%	75.0%	38	34	14	10	11	5	1	9	14	17	4	9	42	38	20	23
SUNY Potsdam	OOC	Home	1653	98	59	39	22	73	65	53.4%	33.8%	9	4	23	19	39.1%	21.1%	11	11	15	13	73.3%	84.6%	38	32	20	7	17	5	3	5	13	21	24	4	54	24	14	10
Sacred Heart	OOC	Home	1415	93	79	31	34	58	65	53.4%	52.3%	10	5	21	18	47.6%	27.8%	21	6	26	13	80.8%	46.2%	40	22	18	19	7	8	1	3	17	10	17	13	38	54	13	18
Long Island	OOC	Away	1704	86	69	29	25	56	56	51.8%	44.6%	5	3	15	17	33.3%	17.6%	23	16	31	24	74.2%	66.7%	43	25	16	12	16	16	5	3	22	20	26	9	46	32	16	22
NJIT		AE	Away	323	79	73	26	28	63	63	41.3%	44.4%	8	4	24	19	33.3%	21.1%	19	13	25	17	76.0%	76.5%	41	36	13	11	7	9	4	6	15	14	15	8	34	42	15	23
Binghamton	AE	Home	2164	95	75	37	27	79	55	46.8%	49.1%	11	3	27	9	40.7%	33.3%	10	18	15	26	66.7%	69.2%	39	34	17	14	10	1	3	6	5	14	20	16	52	46	21	16
			
Tot. W		OOC		20327	662	532	236	196	487	487	48.5%	40.2%	62	36	168	148	36.9%	24.3%	128	104	183	146	69.9%	71.2%	311	244	119	84	81	60	22	33	114	116	132	64	328	270	138	136
		AE		2487	174	148	63	55	142	118	44.4%	46.6%	19	7	51	28	37.3%	25.0%	29	31	40	43	72.5%	72.1%	80	70	30	25	17	10	7	12	20	28	35	24	86	88	36	39
			
Avg. W		OOC		2540.9	82.8	66.5	29.5	24.5	60.9	60.9	48.5%	40.2%	7.8	4.5	21.0	18.5	36.9%	24.3%	16.0	13.0	22.9	18.3	69.9%	71.2%	38.9	30.5	14.9	10.5	10.1	7.5	2.8	4.1	14.3	14.5	16.5	8.0	41.0	33.8	17.3	17.0
		AE		1243.5	87.0	74.0	31.5	27.5	71.0	59.0	44.4%	46.6%	9.5	3.5	25.5	14.0	37.3%	25.0%	14.5	15.5	20.0	21.5	72.5%	72.1%	40.0	35.0	15.0	12.5	8.5	5.0	3.5	6.0	10.0	14.0	17.5	12.0	43.0	44.0	18.0	19.5
			
Tot. W				22814	836	680	299	251	629	605	47.5%	41.5%	81	43	219	176	37.0%	24.4%	157	135	223	189	70.4%	71.4%	391	314	149	109	98	70	29	45	134	144	167	88	414	358	174	175
Avg. W				2281.4	83.6	68.0	29.9	25.1	62.9	60.5	47.4%	41.6%	8.1	4.3	21.9	17.6	36.3%	24.8%	15.7	13.5	22.3	18.9	72.3%	70.5%	39.1	31.4	14.9	10.9	9.8	7.0	2.9	4.5	13.4	14.4	16.7	8.8	41.4	35.8	17.4	17.5
																																							
UAlbany Losses																																							
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																							
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FST BRK		PTS IN PNT		FOUL	
UMass		OOC	Away	3015	71	92	20	33	56	76	35.7%	43.4%	9	10	26	22	34.6%	45.5%	22	16	31	26	71.0%	61.5%	40	43	10	20	2	12	5	4	18	5	16	16	22	46	23	21
Seton Hall	OOC	Away	7712	71	96	25	36	61	58	41.0%	62.1%	8	5	28	14	28.6%	35.7%	13	19	19	25	68.4%	76.0%	29	33	12	17	7	11	3	3	13	9	7	15	28	58	20	13
Quinnipiac	OOC	Away	763	82	85	29	30	73	68	39.7%	44.1%	7	1	20	7	35.0%	14.3%	17	24	23	30	73.9%	80.0%	38	39	11	13	7	3	6	7	10	11	8	20	44	50	21	27
Temple		OOC	Neutral	-	73	78	27	26	62	57	43.5%	45.6%	5	4	24	16	20.8%	25.0%	14	22	18	32	77.8%	68.8%	37	37	16	12	8	10	6	3	17	13	11	3	42	36	22	16
Drexel		OOC	Away	991	52	71	21	29	66	67	31.8%	43.3%	4	6	22	17	18.2%	35.3%	6	7	7	11	85.7%	63.6%	26	54	10	12	10	4	2	6	10	18	14	14	30	36	16	11
South Florida	OOC	Away	2759	73	89	28	31	64	65	43.8%	47.7%	7	6	21	23	33.3%	26.1%	10	21	15	30	66.7%	70.0%	37	40	13	16	8	7	2	3	20	11	14	13	42	38	23	13
Harvard		OOC	Away	837	71	76	28	27	58	58	48.3%	46.6%	4	5	21	19	19.0%	26.3%	11	17	17	28	64.7%	60.7%	35	35	8	13	10	12	4	1	17	12	15	15	44	42	22	15
UMass-Lowell	AE	Home	2004	76	97	28	36	65	56	43.1%	64.3%	6	5	23	10	26.1%	50.0%	14	20	19	25	73.7%	80.0%	28	34	9	17	4	7	3	7	12	10	12	6	44	58	21	20
	
Tot. L		OOC		16077	493	587	178	212	440	449	40.5%	47.2%	44	37	162	118	27.2%	31.4%	93	126	130	182	71.5%	69.2%	242	281	80	103	52	59	28	27	105	79	85	96	252	306	147	116
		AE		2004	76	97	28	36	65	56	43.1%	64.3%	6	5	23	10	26.1%	50.0%	14	20	19	25	73.7%	80.0%	28	34	9	17	4	7	3	7	12	10	12	6	44	58	21	20
			
Avg. L		OOC		2296.7	70.4	83.9	25.4	30.3	62.9	64.1	40.5%	47.2%	6.3	5.3	23.1	16.9	27.2%	31.4%	13.3	18.0	18.6	26.0	71.5%	69.2%	34.6	40.1	11.4	14.7	7.4	8.4	4.0	3.9	15.0	11.3	12.1	13.7	36.0	43.7	21.0	16.6
		AE		2004.0	76.0	97.0	28.0	36.0	65.0	56.0	43.1%	64.3%	6.0	5.0	23.0	10.0	26.1%	50.0%	14.0	20.0	19.0	25.0	73.7%	80.0%	28.0	34.0	9.0	17.0	4.0	7.0	3.0	7.0	12.0	10.0	12.0	6.0	44.0	58.0	21.0	20.0
			
Tot. L				18081	569	684	206	248	505	505	40.8%	49.1%	50	42	185	128	27.0%	32.8%	107	146	149	207	71.8%	70.5%	270	315	89	120	56	66	31	34	117	89	97	102	296	364	168	136
Avg. L				2260.1	71.1	85.5	25.8	31.0	63.1	63.1	40.9%	49.6%	6.3	5.3	23.1	16.0	27.0%	32.3%	13.4	18.3	18.6	25.9	72.7%	70.1%	33.8	39.4	11.1	15.0	7.0	8.3	3.9	4.3	14.6	11.1	12.1	12.8	37.0	45.5	21.0	17.0
																																							
Tot. (all)			40895	1405	1364	505	499	1134	1110	44.5%	45.0%	131	85	404	304	32.4%	28.0%	264	281	372	396	71.0%	71.0%	661	629	238	229	154	136	60	79	251	233	264	190	710	722	342	311
Avg. (all)			2271.9	78.1	75.8	28.1	27.7	63.0	61.7	44.5%	45.2%	7.3	4.7	22.4	16.9	32.2%	28.1%	14.7	15.6	20.7	22.0	72.5%	70.3%	36.7	34.9	13.2	12.7	8.6	7.6	3.3	4.4	13.9	12.9	14.7	10.6	39.4	40.1	19.0	17.3
			LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FST BRK		PTS IN PNT		FOUL	

 

[nysteve661]

Good grief, says Charlie Brown.  This is a debacle so far.  Can't hit the broad side of a barn.

Update:  a bit better to end the half.  Got to get Beagle going, three fouls hurt and five TOs.

Edited January 21 by nysteve661

[nysteve661]

Give up 97 to Lowell, 98 to Bryant.  Can't win many games with that defense.

[ctdanes]

Yeah that defense just ain’t gonna cut it. Can’t go down 32-8 at home either 

[cwdickens]

Our coach has preached mentality from his team, as fans in the stands and those who need to watch a stream of the games, we must demand accountability from Killings. A 32-8 run by the opposing team is unacceptable and no matter how much "better" UAlbany MBB played, could not overcome that start.  Only the misplaced egos and stupidity of Bryant allow us to close the gap.

From my vantage point, I see no progression in Killings game plans or coaching skills.

Edited January 21 by cwdickens
clarification

[cwdickens]

 

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[UA1882]

We are 2 levels below the top teams. I always expected a .500 conference record at best.  Any more than that is gravy. 

I truly believe defense is all effort.  We don't have it.  Need to find a coach and a team to buy into it.  

[dslyank]

11 hours ago, ctdanes said:

Yeah that defense just ain’t gonna cut it. Can’t go down 32-8 at home either 

Don't know what happened or why UA had such a poor/mysterious start??  But from that point, actually beat Bryant 66 to UA's 81. Even with the "slow" start UA was with 4-6 pts with 4-5 minutes left, but ran out of gas; and/or got sloppy; and/or just could not muster enough DEFENSE, to get over the hump.

For what it's worth IMHO massL was/is the superior team to Bryant. Haven't seen Vermont, but big IF, UA could somehow find a little defense somewhere/somehow/ UKnow: offensively at least they CAN compete with the top 3-4.

[godanesgo99]

Bryant's Achilles heel last season was their defense. They played none. With basically the same roster this season they are the best defensive team in the conference (analytically) and it doesn't seem close.

What changed? How did their new coach change their mentality?

[dslyank]

2 minutes ago, godanesgo99 said:

best defensive team in the conference (analytically)

UM?? UA put up 89 points on Bryant with a start of only 8 pts in the first 10 minutes or so. UA basically score 81 points 30 minutes on the best defense in the league?????? Not sure but IMHO I would NOT crown Bryant the defensive team award quite yet. MassL might light them up for 100+🤫.

[godanesgo99]

2 minutes ago, dslyank said:

UM?? UA put up 89 points on Bryant with a start of only 8 pts in the first 10 minutes or so. UA basically score 81 points 30 minutes on the best defense in the league?????? Not sure but IMHO I would NOT crown Bryant the defensive team award quite yet. MassL might light them up for 100+🤫.

Analytically they are, even after allowing 89 to us, and it isn't close. 

[jimbo]

As a math major, I’ve always liked the old saying: “There’s lies, there’s damn lies and then there’s statistics.” I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone, just wanted to throw that out. Lucky for me I watched the WBB game…a terrific battle and got caught up in football and totally forgot MBB until the 32-8 start was well into the rear view mirror. From where I picked it up they were in the game but just couldn’t get over the hump and make a run to close it. Maybe the OOC and early AE games were a bit of a mirage. They lost their 7 ft recruit and Neely is a big loss. I do believe that giving up that many points at home to a league opponent is an abject failure of coaching and execution. The women are carrying the season once again. 

Edited January 21 by jimbo

[godanesgo99]

Anyone see any updates on Reddish? Is he ok?

[dslyank]

23 hours ago, godanesgo99 said:

Analytically they are, even after allowing 89 to us, and it isn't close. 

You are MORE than welcome to your analytics and opinions. Just saying from what I've seen so far and IMHO massL is a far superior team to Bryant. Better coach & more disciplined players. Bryant blocks A LOT of shots, maybe best in the country; but good coaching, and good execution. and perhaps a few inches difference in a block or a called foul, could go along way in negating this defensive strength of Bryant. Don't get me wrong and reiterate I respect your assessment of them; but IMHO I just do not see them finishing any better than 3rd or 4th in the conference. {there is a LONG way to go, but that is just how I SEE it now.}

[godanesgo99]

8 hours ago, dslyank said:

You are MORE than welcome to your analytics and opinions. Just saying from what I've seen so far and IMHO massL is a far superior team to Bryant. Better coach & more disciplined players. Bryant blocks A LOT of shots, maybe best in the country; but good coaching, and good execution. and perhaps a few inches difference in a block or a called foul, could go along way in negating this defensive strength of Bryant. Don't get me wrong and reiterate I respect your assessment of them; but IMHO I just do not see them finishing any better than 3rd or 4th in the conference. {there is a LONG way to go, but that is just how I SEE it now.}

It's not my opinion. It's Massey rankings and other analytics sites opinions on defensive efficiency. I never said Bryant was better than UML. I said that Bryant was ranked the best defense in the league. You too are free to have your own opinions but the numbers are what the numbers are. 

Using the Bart Torvick site for this image because that site is free, but you will see similar numbers on all of the other sites and rankings out there...

In order of defensive efficiency:

The original question is the same... What happened where Bryant could go from a team with below average defense causing them to under achieve last year, to being ranked the best defense in the league this year with the same basic roster makeup?

Edited January 22 by godanesgo99