mbb 2022 Game #17: 1/5/23 - 7PM at UMBC

[UA1882]

Listen.  They played hard . When your one of the 30 worse teams in the country, that's the only positive I can think of..... 

[dslyank]

I know it’s early; but I’d wager neither of these teams will have a representation on the AMEAST all defensive team

[McFan]

I’ll take this lose over most of our losses.   The D is disgusting but we did score 83(so far).  Signs of life.

[dslyank]

Bingo beats Nhamp by 18. Maine loses to umassL by only 2. UA in a lot of trouble. Looking directly in the eye of a 9th place finish in league. I know it’s early, but guessing winless on the road; maybe sneak a couple wins at HVCC???

[tnehurley]

Bottom line—-when you score 83 you should win, not lose by 9. Rodger or no Rodger, this defense is absolutely pathetic. N.H., who killed us, loses big time to Binghamton. Who can UA beat in the AE??

[cwdickens]

1 hour ago, UAalum72 said:

Rodger saying Albany did a good job defensively. I don't know how you say that when you give up 40 in a half.

Ten turnovers not good.

I have long given up thinking that Rodger knows what he is talking about ... he is a paid promoter of UAlbany Sports, and he is not a very good at that.

In the end, there was no defense was played tonight by either team.  Another bad start by UAlbany and we were unable to but a strong run together to overcome UMBC good start,

[godanesgo99]

The bottom 3 teams in the AE defensively are UMBC, UA, then Bing (before tonight's games) but UMBC has the best offense (analytically so far). 

I'm afraid that our players won't have a chance to lose a first round playoff game this year.  Maybe we can beat Vermont with the last game of the year so we can be one of the only teams in the country that end their season on a win.

 

[cwdickens]

33 minutes ago, UA1882 said:

Listen.  They played hard . When your one of the 30 worse teams in the country, that's the only positive I can think of..... 

Gave up 92 points, committed 21 personal fouls with a technical foul and 13 turnovers.... maybe playing smart is better idea then playing hard

[Clickclack]

Albany's defensive efficiency after this defensive debacle stands at 120 in the AE...UBMC was able to score 1.28pts per possession...that is shockingly bad.

 

I honestly have no idea why they are this bad on defense...I didn't see this game as I was out, but anyone have any sense why they are this brutal on the defensive end? The defense is completely non-existent. Is this just a stupid stupid team with zero awareness, is the effort not there? What gives? They seem to be getting worse by each passing game. I'm sure coaches are seeing on the tape where they can be exploited on that end. Why is DK not making adjustments?

[jimbo]

There was a game? First I knew about it and it’s 12 hours after tip-off.  That should send chills up the spines in the AD’s office, but it won’t. I’m not joking here. My interest is GONE. 

[UA1882]

Here is my issue.  I'm starting to think Killings does not have a game plan.  Most of the time I don't know specifics about a team and talk in general.  

However , this game we all know Doles.  He is soft. Not bad but soft.  He is not going to back you down, or beat you off the dribble . He is going to shoot the midrange jumper or 3 pointer. He was on the team all last year doing this . And yet he continued to do it last night and be effective.  The fact the players did not know this shows their lack of understanding or the coaches lack of understanding.  Either way it's extremely alarming.  

[Clickclack]

To me the most alarming thing isn't offense...they probably have enough offense to be competitive in the AE. To me the most alarming thing by far is the defensive side of the ball. Defense is mostly effort and IQ. And that's scary...you can stay in a lot of games if you play defense. This team gets worse on that end each and every game. 

[Eli]

UAlbany Wins																																			
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																			
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Presbyterian	OOC	Home	1417	68	65	26	24	61	55	42.6%	43.6%	9	0	20	11	45.0%	0.0%	7	17	15	22	46.7%	77.3%	38	36	11	4	5	6	1	2	11	12	17	21
LI University	OOC	Home	907	76	59	26	23	55	62	47.3%	37.1%	4	3	17	11	23.5%	27.3%	20	10	25	21	80.0%	47.6%	43	33	17	12	9	6	2	4	19	18	20	18
N. Illinois	OOC	Home	506	83	78	30	29	64	54	46.9%	53.7%	12	5	29	17	41.4%	29.4%	11	15	17	21	64.7%	71.4%	38	30	14	14	7	5	1	3	15	16	19	21																																		
																																			
Tot. W			2830	227	202	82	76	180	171	45.6%	44.4%	25	8	66	39	37.9%	20.5%	38	42	57	64	66.7%	65.6%	119	99	42	30	21	17	4	9	45	46	56	60
Avg. W			943.3	75.7	67.3	27.3	25.3	60.0	57.0	45.6%	44.8%	8.3	2.7	22.0	13.0	36.6%	18.9%	12.7	14.0	19.0	21.3	63.8%	65.4%	39.7	33.0	14.0	10.0	7.0	5.7	1.3	3.0	15.0	15.3	18.7	20.0
																																			
UAlbany Losses																																			
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																			
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Towson		OOC	Away	3242	62	67	19	23	53	53	35.8%	43.4%	10	3	31	12	32.3%	25.0%	14	18	18	21	77.8%	85.7%	34	32	14	13	5	6	4	3	15	13	21	16
Siena		OOC	Away	9561	62	75	21	23	54	54	38.9%	42.6%	8	9	22	17	36.4%	52.9%	12	20	18	33	66.7%	60.6%	30	42	7	14	4	4	3	5	12	13	27	18
St. Josephs	OOC	Away	1452	79	99	25	31	60	55	41.7%	56.4%	9	12	27	26	33.3%	46.2%	20	25	29	43	69.0%	58.1%	34	38	12	16	7	10	1	1	12	12	29	27
Austin Peay	OOC	Away	1000	59	74	20	24	48	49	41.7%	49.0%	5	3	22	13	22.7%	23.1%	14	23	21	27	66.7%	85.2%	31	30	12	11	3	2	1	3	15	8	24	18
FL. Atlantic	OOC	Home	1093	56	73	20	29	58	59	34.5%	49.2%	5	8	16	24	31.3%	33.3%	11	7	15	11	73.3%	63.6%	32	42	6	10	6	6	2	3	9	11	15	14
American	OOC	Home	1009	62	88	22	35	50	49	44.0%	71.4%	8	8	19	11	42.1%	72.7%	10	10	15	12	66.7%	83.3%	17	29	8	23	6	9	2	2	10	11	15	13
Umass		OOC	Away	3174	73	87	25	33	62	62	40.3%	53.2%	11	3	32	15	34.4%	20.0%	12	18	20	26	60.0%	69.2%	39	36	14	19	4	12	3	5	17	12	23	19
Providence	OOC	Away	8229	55	93	19	34	67	62	28.4%	54.8%	6	4	30	19	20.0%	21.1%	11	21	13	26	84.6%	80.8%	30	48	8	17	8	7	4	3	15	12	22	12
Loyola Chicago	OOC	Away	3162	56	68	19	24	54	48	35.2%	50.0%	5	6	18	16	27.8%	37.5%	13	14	18	20	72.2%	70.0%	28	38	10	14	5	4	1	7	11	13	18	16
Virginia	OOC	Away	14269	46	66	16	25	52	52	30.8%	48.1%	6	5	27	18	22.2%	27.8%	8	11	11	20	72.7%	55.0%	30	38	9	15	3	4	3	7	10	8	16	9
New Hampshire	AE	Home	1381	51	67	19	24	54	54	35.2%	44.4%	3	10	13	23	23.1%	43.5%	10	9	18	15	55.6%	60.0%	36	37	9	16	8	6	2	5	13	10	13	15
UMBC		AE	Away	1075	83	92	27	34	62	63	43.5%	54.0%	12	5	33	22	36.4%	22.7%	17	19	19	26	89.5%	73.1%	38	31	15	21	5	6	1	2	13	6	21																					

Tot. L		OOC		46191	610	790	206	281	558	543	36.9%	51.7%	73	61	244	171	29.9%	35.7%	125	167	178	239	70.2%	69.9%	305	373	100	152	51	64	24	39	126	113	210	162
		AE		2456	134	159	46	58	116	117	39.7%	49.6%	15	15	46	45	32.6%	33.3%	27	28	37	41	73.0%	68.3%	74	68	24	37	13	12	3	7	26	16	34	31
																																			
Avg. L		OOC		4619.1	61.0	79.0	20.6	28.1	55.8	54.3	36.9%	51.7%	7.3	6.1	24.4	17.1	29.9%	35.7%	12.5	16.7	17.8	23.9	70.2%	69.9%	30.5	37.3	10.0	15.2	5.1	6.4	2.4	3.9	12.6	11.3	21.0	16.2
		AE		1228.0	67.0	79.5	23.0	29.0	58.0	58.5	39.7%	49.6%	7.5	7.5	23.0	22.5	32.6%	33.3%	13.5	14.0	18.5	20.5	73.0%	68.3%	37.0	34.0	12.0	18.5	6.5	6.0	1.5	3.5	13.0	8.0	17.0	15.5
																																			
Tot. L				48647	744	949	252	339	674	660	37.4%	51.4%	88	76	290	216	30.3%	35.2%	152	195	215	280	70.7%	69.6%	379	441	124	189	64	76	27	46	152	129	244	193
Avg. L				4053.9	62.0	79.1	21.0	28.3	56.2	55.0	37.5%	51.4%	7.3	6.3	24.2	18.0	30.2%	35.5%	12.7	16.3	17.9	23.3	71.2%	70.4%	31.6	36.8	10.3	15.8	5.3	6.3	2.3	3.8	12.7	10.8	20.3	16.1
																																			
Tot. (all)			51477	971	1151	334	415	854	831	39.1%	49.9%	113	84	356	255	31.7%	32.9%	190	237	272	344	69.9%	68.9%	498	540	166	219	85	93	31	55	197	175	300	253
Avg. (all)			3431.8	64.7	76.7	22.3	27.7	56.9	55.4	39.1%	50.1%	7.5	5.6	23.7	17.0	31.5%	32.2%	12.7	15.8	18.1	22.9	69.7%	69.4%	33.2	36.0	11.1	14.6	5.7	6.2	2.1	3.7	13.1	11.7	20.0	16.9
			LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	

 

[dslyank]

3 hours ago, Clickclack said:

To me the most alarming thing isn't offense...they probably have enough offense to be competitive in the AE. To me the most alarming thing by far is the defensive side of the ball. Defense is mostly effort and IQ. And that's scary...you can stay in a lot of games if you play defense. This team gets worse on that end each and every game. 

I pretty much agree with everything. But doubtful about your comment that UA probably has enough offense to compete? Tonight they scored 83 pts because umbc's defensive is/was almost as bad as UA's. Against good defensive teams, IMHO UA will revert to NOT scoring enough. I am afraid UA is just as bad offensively as defensively. Pick a reason:  low basketball IQ on BOTH ends of the court; BAD coaching; lack of talent; and more. Probably all of the above and more. Not sure I'd include effort as a reason UA is SO bad; for the most part I think the kids are really trying hard {maybe trying too hard??}.