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Ahh, I only used VC as my point of reference which doesn't show when he red shirted at quick glance. And I forgot he had to sit at North Dakota. My mistake.

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Lets not forget that with Joe and David on the roster we did win 67 game in 3 seasons and they were true Student/athletes!!!! We should appreciate them for their accomplishments. Our standa

Just a reminder that reading this thread isn't mandatory for anyone. 

Let's give a thanks to Connor Fields who obviously could have transfered to the ACC the past couple years and has chosen to stay to help lead the team to possible glory.

14 minutes ago, KingDane said:

"Rooting" comes from somewhere inside. For better or worse - when I watch an FSU or Villanova game, I find myself rooting against Nichols and/or Cremo. 

Honestly I haven't watched them play at all. Have seen Joe for like 3 actual in-game minutes and have seen ZERO Nichols. Just can't be bothered to care, they walked out on UA. 

 

I'm to busy breaking down KenPom to see when our first W will come...Hopefully next Wednesday against UNH. LOL...

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1 hour ago, UA'08 said:

According to the UMBC announcers they said Brown was 1000% shocked Cremo left. Then went on to throw a little shade and said he could have had his jersey in the rafters if he would have stayed 👍

They ain't wrong. Kid threw away his UA legacy. I wonder if he regrets it. 

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I still don't see it as throwing away a legacy. I see it as taking a chance at the opportunity of a lifetime, and something incredible for a resume.

He is a UA alumni. He graduated. So did Nichols. They will forever be remembered for what they were:

Great talents at UA that were never able to get over the hump and win a championship in Purple and Gold before they graduated. That's it. No reason to hate. 

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48 minutes ago, godanesgo99 said:

I still don't see it as throwing away a legacy. I see it as taking a chance at the opportunity of a lifetime, and something incredible for a resume.

He is a UA alumni. He graduated. So did Nichols. They will forever be remembered for what they were:

Great talents at UA that were never able to get over the hump and win a championship in Purple and Gold before they graduated. That's it. No reason to hate. 

I think its the way they did it, not telling the coach til the end. Essentially leaving them in the lurch. Its just a guess . I wish them the best, truly do!!!!!

But I will never have a good taste in my mouth about it.  It's like leaving your wife when she is pregnant. Lol 

 

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I personally don't care if they have degrees from UAlbany. UA gave them athletic scholarships with the understanding that they would give four years worth of basketball on the court to UA. They only gave 3. AND, if all rumors are true, blind sided the program. There is no doubt that Brown knew they were graduating (the staff is very involved in their academics, grades, etc.)...but if they were stand up men they should have told Brown 'hey, you know I'm graduating soon...and I'm leaning towards transferring for my graduate season'...in like November/December...not March/April. Again, if the rumors are true (and I believe they are).

*In shark tank voice*....annnnnnnd for that reason I'm out. I will never regard them as some of UA's most talented. They will never be on UA's Mount Rushmore or whatever equivalent we want to use. To me they are more Will Harris and less Jamar Wilson. In a decade or two, no one will remember who Will Harris was...or who Joe Cremo was.

If you want to know why this topic pisses me off it's because of the state of the team currently. They are direct cause of it. I still think our future is fine, but this season was a loss because of them. If we had them, it's unlikely we would have won the AE title, but we wouldn't be sitting at 5-14 that's for sure.

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58 minutes ago, BhillGuy said:

Up 9 with 7 minutes left.... Imagine the narrative change if that goes differently 

When it came down to crunch time.

2:45 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo Turnover. 50 - 50  
2:21 261.png&h=100&w=100 Trae Bell-Haynes missed Layup. 50 - 50  
2:21 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo Defensive Rebound. 50 - 50  
2:19 261.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Anthony Lamb. 50 - 50  
2:19 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo missed Free Throw. 50 - 50  
2:19 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb Defensive Rebound. 50 - 50  
1:52 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb Turnover. 50 - 50  
1:46 399.png&h=100&w=100 Albany Timeout 50 - 50  
1:38 399.png&h=100&w=100 David Nichols Turnover. 50 - 50  
1:38 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb Steal. 50 - 50  
1:29 261.png&h=100&w=100 Vermont Timeout 50 - 50  
1:13 399.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Mike Rowley. 50 - 50  
1:13 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb made Free Throw. 50 - 51  
1:13 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb made Free Throw. 50 - 52  
0:51 261.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Kurt Steidl. 50 - 52  
0:51 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo made Free Throw. 51 - 52  
0:51 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo made Free Throw. 52 - 52  
0:39 261.png&h=100&w=100 Payton Henson made Layup. Assisted by Trae Bell-Haynes. 52 - 54  
0:39 399.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Devonte Campbell. 52 - 54  
0:39 261.png&h=100&w=100 Payton Henson made Free Throw. 52 - 55  
0:31 399.png&h=100&w=100 Albany Timeout 52 - 55  
0:17 399.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Joe Cremo. 52 - 55  
0:17 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo Turnover. 52 - 55  
0:17 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb Turnover. 52 - 55  
0:17 399.png&h=100&w=100 Mike Rowley Steal. 52 - 55  
0:10 399.png&h=100&w=100 David Nichols missed Three Point Jumper. 52 - 55  
0:10 261.png&h=100&w=100 Vermont Defensive Rebound. 52 - 55  
0:10 399.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on David Nichols. 52 - 55  
0:10 261.png&h=100&w=100 Trae Bell-Haynes missed Free Throw. 52 - 55  
0:10 261.png&h=100&w=100 Vermont Deadball Team Rebound. 52 - 55  
0:10 261.png&h=100&w=100 Trae Bell-Haynes made Free Throw. 52 - 56  
0:07 399.png&h=100&w=100 Joe Cremo missed Three Point Jumper. 52 - 56  
0:07 399.png&h=100&w=100 Greig Stire Offensive Rebound. 52 - 56  
0:02 399.png&h=100&w=100 Greig Stire missed Layup. 52 - 56  
0:02 261.png&h=100&w=100 Anthony Lamb Block. 52 - 56  
0:02 399.png&h=100&w=100 Albany Offensive Rebound. 52 - 56  
0:01 261.png&h=100&w=100 Foul on Anthony Lamb. 52 - 56  
0:01 399.png&h=100&w=100 David Nichols missed Free Throw. 52 - 56  
0:01 399.png&h=100&w=100 Albany Deadball Team Rebound. 52 - 56  
0:01 399.png&h=100&w=100 David Nichols made Free Throw. 53 - 56  
0:01 399.png&h=100&w=100 David Nichols missed Free Throw. 53 - 56  
0:01 261.png&h=100&w=100 Vermont Defensive Rebound. 53 - 56  
0:00 261.png&h=100&w=100 End of Game
 

 

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I'm sure I'm in the minority but I didn't blame Cremo and Nichols that much for not winning while they were here. We never filled in around them with talent of a similar caliber. It takes more than two guys.

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In this league, 2 guys is normally all a team gets for 'dependable' offense and that's if they are lucky to keep those 2 healthy. UMBC had 1 guy last year. Sometimes a surprise transfer comes in and then another kid is developed and maybe you get a surprise or a streaky shooter. But normally the rest are supporting cast and then it's up to the coach to work it. 

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10 hours ago, Dane Pound said:

I'm sure I'm in the minority but I didn't blame Cremo and Nichols that much for not winning while they were here. We never filled in around them with talent of a similar caliber. It takes more than two guys.

They did have talent around them...Charles was a great complimentary 3rd piece last year they had a solid 5 in Stire rebounding and defending down low. They didn't get it done...the chemistry on last years team was IMO pretty clearly not healthy. They went 10-6 in league play and folded in the first round to a 7-9 SBU at home. Won't get into any details but Cremo was the surprise departure. The clock struck midnight on the other one. It was time to part. 

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I was mad and disappointed when they left but have mellowed.   You can't beat the atmosphere when Duke was at FSU or the same at Villanova 's new arena vs St John's or their nemesis Xavier .  They were not going to get that at SEFCU even vs UVM or SBU.  I know their is loyalty but I am not a 21 year old who looking at the possibilities, figured the transfer was in their best interest. And if one or both of them get to the Sweet 16, that is a great way to end a college career that does not have the NBA in the future.  Both are playing significant minutes helping their teams and not just towel waving cheerleaders.  

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