mbb 2022 Game #19: 1/11/23 - 7PM vs Bryant

[Eli]

1 minute ago, dslyank said:

Not to knit-pick but Bryant “In 2012, Bryant became a full Division I member.” From Google. 
 

https://www.bryantbulldogs.com/information/Division_I_Information

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The teams started playing Division 1 schedules in the 2008-09 school year.  They will be fully eligible for NCAA Division 1 Championships in September 2012.

They've been D1 for a while but were only fully fledged and allowed to play in tournaments since 2012 after ramping up for 5 years.

I don't ever doubt D96. Guy forgotten more about college sports than I've learned.

[Eli]

UAlbany Wins																																			
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																			
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Presbyterian	OOC	Home	1417	68	65	26	24	61	55	42.6%	43.6%	9	0	20	11	45.0%	0.0%	7	17	15	22	46.7%	77.3%	38	36	11	4	5	6	1	2	11	12	17	21
LI University	OOC	Home	907	76	59	26	23	55	62	47.3%	37.1%	4	3	17	11	23.5%	27.3%	20	10	25	21	80.0%	47.6%	43	33	17	12	9	6	2	4	19	18	20	18
N. Illinois	OOC	Home	506	83	78	30	29	64	54	46.9%	53.7%	12	5	29	17	41.4%	29.4%	11	15	17	21	64.7%	71.4%	38	30	14	14	7	5	1	3	15	16	19	21
Umass-Lowell	AE	Home	1308	89	63	26	23	55	53	47.3%	43.4%	13	3	20	15	65.0%	20.0%	24	14	29	18	82.8%	77.8%	37	25	18	10	10	6	2	7	10	13	15	22
																																		
Tot. W		OOC		2830	227	202	82	76	180	171	45.6%	44.4%	25	8	66	39	37.9%	20.5%	38	42	57	64	66.7%	65.6%	119	99	42	30	21	17	4	9	45	46	56	60
		AE		1308	89	63	26	23	55	53	47.3%	43.4%	13	3	20	15	65.0%	20.0%	24	14	29	18	82.8%	77.8%	37	25	18	10	10	6	2	7	10	13	15	22																																	

Avg. W		OOC		943.3	75.7	67.3	27.3	25.3	60.0	57.0	45.6%	44.4%	8.3	2.7	22.0	13.0	37.9%	20.5%	12.7	14.0	19.0	21.3	66.7%	65.6%	39.7	33.0	14.0	10.0	7.0	5.7	1.3	3.0	15.0	15.3	18.7	20.0
		AE		1308.0	89.0	63.0	26.0	23.0	55.0	53.0	47.3%	43.4%	13.0	3.0	20.0	15.0	65.0%	20.0%	24.0	14.0	29.0	18.0	82.8%	77.8%	37.0	25.0	18.0	10.0	10.0	6.0	2.0	7.0	10.0	13.0	15.0	22.0
	
Tot. W				4138	316	265	108	99	235	224	46.0%	44.2%	38	11	86	54	44.2%	20.4%	62	56	86	82	72.1%	68.3%	156	124	60	40	31	23	6	16	55	59	71	82
Avg. W				1034.5	79.0	66.3	27.0	24.8	58.8	56.0	46.0%	44.5%	9.5	2.8	21.5	13.5	43.7%	19.2%	15.5	14.0	21.5	20.5	68.5%	68.5%	39.0	31.0	15.0	10.0	7.8	5.8	1.5	4.0	13.8	14.8	17.8	20.5
																																			
UAlbany Losses																																			
** Albany stats are the left side in each grouping **																																			
Opponent	Type	LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	
Towson		OOC	Away	3242	62	67	19	23	53	53	35.8%	43.4%	10	3	31	12	32.3%	25.0%	14	18	18	21	77.8%	85.7%	34	32	14	13	5	6	4	3	15	13	21	16
Siena		OOC	Away	9561	62	75	21	23	54	54	38.9%	42.6%	8	9	22	17	36.4%	52.9%	12	20	18	33	66.7%	60.6%	30	42	7	14	4	4	3	5	12	13	27	18
St. Josephs	OOC	Away	1452	79	99	25	31	60	55	41.7%	56.4%	9	12	27	26	33.3%	46.2%	20	25	29	43	69.0%	58.1%	34	38	12	16	7	10	1	1	12	12	29	27
Austin Peay	OOC	Away	1000	59	74	20	24	48	49	41.7%	49.0%	5	3	22	13	22.7%	23.1%	14	23	21	27	66.7%	85.2%	31	30	12	11	3	2	1	3	15	8	24	18
FL. Atlantic	OOC	Home	1093	56	73	20	29	58	59	34.5%	49.2%	5	8	16	24	31.3%	33.3%	11	7	15	11	73.3%	63.6%	32	42	6	10	6	6	2	3	9	11	15	14
American	OOC	Home	1009	62	88	22	35	50	49	44.0%	71.4%	8	8	19	11	42.1%	72.7%	10	10	15	12	66.7%	83.3%	17	29	8	23	6	9	2	2	10	11	15	13
Umass		OOC	Away	3174	73	87	25	33	62	62	40.3%	53.2%	11	3	32	15	34.4%	20.0%	12	18	20	26	60.0%	69.2%	39	36	14	19	4	12	3	5	17	12	23	19
Providence	OOC	Away	8229	55	93	19	34	67	62	28.4%	54.8%	6	4	30	19	20.0%	21.1%	11	21	13	26	84.6%	80.8%	30	48	8	17	8	7	4	3	15	12	22	12
Loyola Chicago	OOC	Away	3162	56	68	19	24	54	48	35.2%	50.0%	5	6	18	16	27.8%	37.5%	13	14	18	20	72.2%	70.0%	28	38	10	14	5	4	1	7	11	13	18	16
Virginia	OOC	Away	14269	46	66	16	25	52	52	30.8%	48.1%	6	5	27	18	22.2%	27.8%	8	11	11	20	72.7%	55.0%	30	38	9	15	3	4	3	7	10	8	16	9
New Hampshire	AE	Home	1381	51	67	19	24	54	54	35.2%	44.4%	3	10	13	23	23.1%	43.5%	10	9	18	15	55.6%	60.0%	36	37	9	16	8	6	2	5	13	10	13	15
UMBC		AE	Away	1075	83	92	27	34	62	63	43.5%	54.0%	12	5	33	22	36.4%	22.7%	17	19	19	26	89.5%	73.1%	38	31	15	21	5	6	1	2	13	6	21	16
Bryant		AE	Away	669	69	86	27	32	61	60	44.3%	53.3%	7	15	24	31	29.2%	48.4%	8	7	12	10	66.7%	70.0%	29	35	14	22	6	5	0	3	11	12	14	11
																																		
Tot. L		OOC		46191	610	790	206	281	558	543	36.9%	51.7%	73	61	244	171	29.9%	35.7%	125	167	178	239	70.2%	69.9%	305	373	100	152	51	64	24	39	126	113	210	162
		AE		3125	203	245	73	90	177	177	41.2%	50.8%	22	30	70	76	31.4%	39.5%	35	35	49	51	71.4%	68.6%	103	103	38	59	19	17	3	10	37	28	48	42																																			
Avg. L		OOC		4619.1	61.0	79.0	20.6	28.1	55.8	54.3	36.9%	51.7%	7.3	6.1	24.4	17.1	29.9%	35.7%	12.5	16.7	17.8	23.9	70.2%	69.9%	30.5	37.3	10.0	15.2	5.1	6.4	2.4	3.9	12.6	11.3	21.0	16.2
		AE		1041.7	67.7	81.7	24.3	30.0	59.0	59.0	41.2%	50.8%	7.3	10.0	23.3	25.3	31.4%	39.5%	11.7	11.7	16.3	17.0	71.4%	68.6%	34.3	34.3	12.7	19.7	6.3	5.7	1.0	3.3	12.3	9.3	16.0	14.0
	
Tot. L				49316	813	1035	279	371	735	720	38.0%	51.5%	95	91	314	247	30.3%	36.8%	160	202	227	290	70.5%	69.7%	408	476	138	211	70	81	27	49	163	141	258	204
Avg. L				3793.5	62.5	79.6	21.5	28.5	56.5	55.4	38.0%	51.5%	7.3	7.0	24.2	19.0	30.1%	36.5%	12.3	15.5	17.5	22.3	70.9%	70.4%	31.4	36.6	10.6	16.2	5.4	6.2	2.1	3.8	12.5	10.8	19.8	15.7
																																			
Tot. (all)			53454	1129	1300	387	470	970	944	39.9%	49.8%	133	102	400	301	33.3%	33.9%	222	258	313	372	70.9%	69.4%	564	600	198	251	101	104	33	65	218	200	329	286
Avg. (all)			3144.4	66.4	76.5	22.8	27.6	57.1	55.5	39.9%	49.9%	7.8	6.0	23.5	17.7	33.3%	32.4%	13.1	15.2	18.4	21.9	70.3%	69.9%	33.2	35.3	11.6	14.8	5.9	6.1	1.9	3.8	12.8	11.8	19.4	16.8
			LOC	ATN	PTS		FGM		FGA		FG%		3PTM		3PTA		3PT%		FTM		FTA		FT%		REB		AST		STL		BLK		TO		FOUL	

 

[dslyank]

Also they have been in the Northeast Conference a conference that most on this blog have blasted for years. Whether you agree with sentiment or not; NEC does not exactly qualify Bryant as D1 powerhouse. 
I do acknowledge that as  DII they were a major soccer power and may even have a national championship or two (maybe women’s?) Also I maybe wrong but pretty sure some of their sports continued to compete in DII even after 2012. 
Anyhow I maybe wrong on all of this & not trying to start & argument; but I found these announcers very offensive in the short time I listened, so it was my prerogative to not listen. 
 

ps of the 30 “NEC” conference championships 15 from swimming, tennis & golf. Only ONE (last year) was in basket & 0 football. For a school with almost zero athletic admission standards; IMHO does not make the DI power those announcers were extolling

Edited January 12, 2023 by dslyank

[dslyank]

DK on post game Reddish coach’s decision discipline benching

[UAalum72]

1 hour ago, godanesgo99 said:

UA still shorthanded, no update that I've heard in why Reddish is out. Edmead not back yet either. This team showing some life like they might be able to compete in the AE with a full squad.

On the postgame show DK said Reddish was out by "coach's decision," some kind of team standards or discipline, said he has to learn (basically "grow up" is how I read it)

He said he let it slide last year but can't any more.

[nysteve661]

6 minutes ago, UAalum72 said:

On the postgame show DK said Reddish was out by "coach's decision," some kind of team standards or discipline, said he has to learn (basically "grow up" is how I read it)

He said he let it slide last year but can't any more.

Can't get through to this kid.  He has to grow up.  Does he think his athleticism or last name gives him carte blanche to misbehave and let down his teammates.  His brother has become a NBA nobody and may end up in the G-League next year.  Aaron may end up transferring cause the coach benched him.  Seems to be common in the day and age.  

[Dane96]

40 minutes ago, Eli said:

https://www.bryantbulldogs.com/information/Division_I_Information

They've been D1 for a while but were only fully fledged and allowed to play in tournaments since 2012 after ramping up for 5 years.

I don't ever doubt D96. Guy forgotten more about college sports than I've learned.

Only one part of that is accurate.  Playing in tourney eligibility.   They have been full fledged since 2008 from a recruiting perspective.  No different then we were or ‘Merrimack or bellermine.  Believe me, I was at their games.  They had d1 talent.  The transition rule is in place for one  very important reason:  eligibility levels at d2 are less strict than d1.  You can bring in athletes who may not have been directly eligible at d1 when the player was recruited.  It’s why you see d2 jump ups do well in their first years, in some instances.  The ncaa didn’t want that benefit to cause a bunch of schools to jump. 

[Dane96]

50 minutes ago, dslyank said:

Not to knit-pick but Bryant “In 2012, Bryant became a full Division I member.” From Google. 
 

Inaccurate. That just means eligibility to play in ncaa tournament games.  Albany had similar restrictions though I think our transition was credited based on our planned move from 3 to 1.  I think our total transition from D2 to D1 was three years to be tourney eligible.  I could be wrong and it was the full 4.  That said, we played d1 basketball in our first year.

and for the record, quoting Bryant’s  wiki page isn’t a great move.  Their use of the words full fledged is not in the manner you think it is. 

[bob87]

I think there was a time when NCAA extended the time to be tournament eligible from 2 years to 4 years around or just after Albany went to D1. Being this is now more than 20 years ago I might not be remembering it exactly 

[Dane Pound]

I don't know how long Bryant has been D1 but it feels like Miles Latimer has been playing against us since WE went D1 20 years ago.

[Clickclack]

1 hour ago, Dane Pound said:

I don't know how long Bryant has been D1 but it feels like Miles Latimer has been playing against us since WE went D1 20 years ago.

Who remembers Jahad Thomas at UML, I think that was his name...I believe I first saw him play against us in 2006. Good to see him finally graduate last season. 

[cwdickens]

No 3-point shot defense tonight .... by Albany and the true Albany team showed up today

[alum73]

Well, half of it.

[dslyank]

11 hours ago, Dane96 said:

Inaccurate. That just means eligibility to play in ncaa tournament games.  Albany had similar restrictions though I think our transition was credited based on our planned move from 3 to 1.  I think our total transition from D2 to D1 was three years to be tourney eligible.  I could be wrong and it was the full 4.  That said, we played d1 basketball in our first year.

and for the record, quoting Bryant’s  wiki page isn’t a great move.  Their use of the words full fledged is not in the manner you think it is. 

OK. I'll concede that I'm wrong. D1 for 15 years, got it. Still IMHO in any way you look at 10 or 15 years still "relatively" a newcomer. I also get the transfer portal can make anyone improve/develop quickly {and I admit I hate the transfer portal making it so easy to transfer.} But still IMHO Bryant is far from being a DI power and their homey announcers were over hyping their team; especially since their pedigree is the NEC and only major sport where they exhibited even a little success was lacrosse.

Edited January 12, 2023 by dslyank

[godanesgo99]

13 hours ago, UAalum72 said:

On the postgame show DK said Reddish was out by "coach's decision," some kind of team standards or discipline, said he has to learn (basically "grow up" is how I read it)

He said he let it slide last year but can't any more.

If this is the case, good. I've been saying for some time that it feels like DK needs to become more boss head coach and less friend assistant coach. This is a good start. It's good for Reddish and DK.